2584 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



British waters does not amount to much ? A. To the best of tuy knowl- 

 edge the Gloucester folks don't consider the inshore fishing in the gulf 

 very valuable. 



Q. Do they consider it of any value at all ? A. I should think they 

 would consider it of little value. 



Q. Would the Gloucester people who are e.ngaged in cod-fishing be 

 able to employ their vessels all the year round except for the mackerel- 

 fishing ? A. Yes. 



Q. And they would make more money by cod-fishing without inack- 

 ereling? A. I did better myself cod-fishing than mackereling. 



Q. About the general trade. Do you believe the Gloucester people 

 could give their continuous attention to cod-fishing without n ackerel- 

 fishiug ? A. Without that of Bay St. Lawrence I do. 



Q. And without fishing for mackerel in Bay St. Lawrence theyjwould 

 get along just as well ? A. I think so, 



Q. And make more money ? A. I made more cod-fishing myself. 



Q. What you have done, other people could do, I suppose. You can- 

 not account, under the circumstances, for the desire of American fish- 

 ermen to get the privilege of fishing within three miles of the shore in 

 the gulf, can you f A. Xo ; I don't know whether they do wish to fish 

 within the three miles or not. 



Q. Do you mean to tell me they do not; if you mean it, say so ? A. 

 I am not prepared to tell you they do not. 



Q. Suppose they do, you cannot account for it ? A. I can only ac- 

 count for it, to the best of niy judgment, by their not doing much within 

 three miles, as far as I know. 



Q. Can you account for their wishing to get the privilege of going 

 within the three miles ; you would not wish to go within the three miles 

 yourself? A. I would not give much for it myself. 



Q. Can you account for anybody having that desire ? A. I ani not 

 prepared to say in regard to other people. 



By Mr. Whiteway : 



Q. Are you now interested in any fishing vessels ? A. Xo ; I am 

 not. 



Q. You have a thorough knowledge of the number of the vessels 

 fitted out in Gloucester for the fisheries ? A. I could not tell you the 

 exact number. 



Q. Could you give me an approximate number? A. To the best of 

 my knowledge, about 500. 



Q. Can you tell me how many are engaged in the cod-fishing business 

 alone ? A. Xo ; I cannot. 



Q. Can you give me the approximate number! A. To the best of my 

 knowledge, I should say 200. I may not be correct. 



Q. How many may be engaged in cod-fishing at one season and mack- 

 ereliug at another ? A. A great part of those which go mackereling go 

 cod-fishing early in the year. 



Q. Then the greater number of the 500 vessels would go cod fishing 

 and about 300 would go mackereling at one season of the year ? A. I 

 think so. 



Q. You fitted out for cod- fish ing, about what time ? A. Many v *.>.- 

 fit out on 1st February, the greater part of them then. 



Q. And they continue cod-fishing till when ? A. About 1st July. 



Q. Then they go mackerel-fishing in the gulf, till about what time ? 

 A. We leave the gulf about 1st Xovember. 



Q. Are those vessels employed in any manner between the time they 



