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those articles? A. I don't think they are. I am not positive. I may 

 not have been correct in the prices of those articles, but they are as near 

 as I can tell. 



Q. As an ordinary rule, are not the prices charged far in excess of the 

 ordinary cash prices ? A. I cannot say that they are. 



Q. Can you say that they are not ? A. They are not to my knowledge. 



Q. There was a witness here the other day who said that 20 or 25 per 

 cent, was charged in addition to the ordinary cash price. Are you pre- 

 pared to say that those prices you have mentioned were not much in 

 excess of the ordinary cash prices charged for those articles? A. I don't 

 think they were; to the best of my knowledge they were not. 



Q. How many gallons of molasses are there in a barrel ? A. 28, I 

 believe, the way we fill a barrel. 



Q. You have given the results of your mackereliug voyages, or at 

 least some of them ; can you give me the results of your cod-fishing voy- 

 ages, as regards the quantities taken, from 1870 to 1875? A. It would 

 be rather difficult for me to do it correctly. 



Q. You cannot do so ? A. Not very accurately. 



Q. But, upon the whole, the cod-fishing voyages were paying voy- 

 ages? A. Yes, with me; I made more than I did uiackereling. 



Q. And does that same reply apply to all previous cod-fishing voy- 

 ages from 1859 to 1869 ? A. Yes, with me. I may have made some bad 

 voyages; I have made some poor voyages. 



Q. But, upon the whole, the cod-fishing has been successful ? A. Yes, 

 it has with me. 



Q. Has not the cod-fishing fleet increased materially within the last 

 two, three, or four years ? A. Yes. 



Q. Very materially? A. I believe it has. 



Q. When did you begin to use fresh bait? A. From my first going 

 in 1859, we used fresh bait going on Georges Bank from Gloucester 

 frozen herring. 



Q. Did you continue to use fresh bait? A. Every year when I went 

 to Georges Bank. 



Q. And how long did you continue to go to Georges Bank ? A. I 

 have been there parts of nine winters, making one voyage each year. 



Q. Where were you the remaining part of the year? A. I came 

 <lown to the Western Bank, aud the latter part of the season went to the 

 Grand Bank. 



Q. Then you made three voyages? A. The voyage to Georges was a 

 very short one, perhaps two weeks. 



Q. Then you made three cod fishing voyages nearly every year, from 

 1859 to 1869? A. Yes; and sometimes move than one voyage to 

 Georges. 



Q. You stated, I think, that you had generally used fresh bait ? A. 

 I always used it when going to Georges. 



Q. You said you had fished with both salt and fresh bait, but mostly 

 with fresh bait. As a general rule, you used fresh bait ? A. Yes, as a 

 general thing. 



Q. Did you always fish with trawls? A. Not always, but perhaps 

 for the last eight or nine years I did. 



Q. Prior to that you used hand-lines ? A. Yes. 



Q. Do you find fresh bait as good for hand-line fishing as for 

 fishing; it is about the same, I suppose? A. It is better for hand ! 

 fishing than for trawl-fishing, perhaps. 



Q. Have you ever been to parts of the Dominion or Newfouudlai 

 for fresh bait whilst fishing ou the Banks ? A. Yes. 



