2628 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



for the year preceding and following ? A. In 1861 he testified he was 

 on the K. H. Oakes, another of my vessels. 



Q. I ask you to give me the return of the vessel in 1861 ? A. I don't 

 understand what you mean by return. 



Q. A statement of the number of barrels of mackerel landed? A. I 

 can give you the number of barrels of mackerel landed. 



Q. And the names of the crew in her ? A. Yes. 



Q. I observe you have your book with you ! A. Yes; my trip-book 

 for 1861 and 1862, not for 1860. 



Q. You did not bring the book for the year in regard to which we are 

 speaking ? A. The book is not in existence. 



Q. How did you get at this ? From my journal. 



Q. Did you bring your journal ? A. I did not. 



Q. You did not bring the book itself relating to the very year on 

 which this man testified, and the correctness of whose testimony you 

 dispute? A. Xo. 



Q. You brought a book relating to the following year ? A. The only 

 trip-book I had. 



Q. You brought a book for the following year ? A. For the follow- 

 ing two years. 



Q. Did it not strike you as a little curious that, when asked to dis- 

 pute the accuracy of a man's statement, you should dispute it and bring 

 a book relating to the following year to that in question, and leave the 

 book at home that would settle the question ? A. I thought that my 

 evidence and the list of the crew would be enough. I am on my oath. 



Q. So was Campbell. Why did you bring the book for the next year ? 

 You were not asked to verify or dispute any statement for the next 

 year? A. Ko. 



Q. Why did you omit to bring the book for the year respecting which 

 you were asked to contradict Campbell's statement ? A. I brought the 

 trip-book which shows the catches of mackerel. 



Q. You say you lost the previous trip-book! A. He was in another 

 vessel of mine afterward. 



Q. If you have lost that trip-book, how are you' able to tell exactly 

 what catch he made ? A. It is entered in my journal. 



Q. Is each man's account transferred to the journal ? A. Yes. 



Q. So that the journal would have done just as well as the trip- 

 book ? A. It is a heavier and more bulky book. 



Q. But it would have all the information ? A. I presume it would. I 

 could have brought it, but I had Mr. Steele's books, which are very 

 heavy. 



Q. I notice that Capt. Joseph Campbell, of Souris, who was examined 

 very nearly the beginning of this Commission, and Ronald McDonald, 

 who was called toward the close, there being, I think, four or five weeks 

 between the times at which they were called, testified on oath the facts 

 respecting that vessel, and with the exception of the number of barrels 

 spoken to by them, on which there is only a small difference, they agree 

 with regard to the trip, the places where the mackerel were taken, and 

 everything ? A. Yes. 



Q. I fancy there must be some explanation of the matter, and there 

 must be a mistake about the year ? A. Here is the record for 1861. 

 Tbe vessel was not built in 1859. 



Q. Campbell said : 



We went to the bay. We landed and took dories and went up to the Seven Islands 

 again. There we got 80 barrels at the same place as before. From that we went 

 fnither uj> to a place called Bonbon and got twenty or thirty barrels there close to the 



