2630 AWARD DF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. How would you know where they fished ; you were not there ? 

 A. No. 



Q. Therefore you cannot know personally ; why, then, do you make 

 that statement ? A. Because, in the fall of the year, on the second 

 trip, they never got it at Seven Islands with dories, and she lauded her 

 dories when she came home on her first trip. 



Q. Campbell says they commenced the trip at Seven Islands ; are you 

 prepared to contradict that? A. I am. 



Q. In what way? A. Because she returned home having caught only 

 17 barrels. 



Q. I am speaking regarding the places where the fish were caught. 

 A. She left her dories at Gloucester after the first voyage. They could 

 not get 280 barrels with her dories when they were on my wharf. 



Q. I am asking you with reference to places where they fished. You 

 say you can contradict Campbell's statement ; how do you contradict it ? 

 A. I cannot contradict it from personal knowledge. 



Q. How can you state you believe it to be incorrect ? A. From evi- 

 dence I know is in existence in regard to it. 



Q. To what evidence do you refer ? A. I refer to a deposition in the 

 hands of counsel. 



Q. You are speaking in regard to some deposition in the hands of 

 counsel, and you base your evidence on that ? A. I do not. 



Q. That is the affidavit of another man ; put that aside at present* 

 Prom your own knowledge, can you pretend to say that Campbell's state- 

 ment is not correct as to where he^fished ? A. I cannot believe it is true 

 when a man says he fished in a certain place, when he says they caught 

 one barrel here and eighty barrels there, and I know the vessel only 

 packed out 17 barrels; I cannot believe the statement to be true. 



Q. It is unfortunate that the trip-book for 1860 is not here ? A. I 

 regret it more than anything else. My little girl asked me last year for 

 a book, and I cut the leaves out, never supposing it would be wanted. 



Q. Can you tell me of any other vessel in 1860 which returned from 

 a trip in Bay Chaleurs with 17 barrels or anything like that ? A. The 

 schooner Anuab, another of my vessels, returned from the bay with 41 

 barrels. 



Q. What size was she ? A. She was about 50 tons. 



Q. What time of the year did she go into the bay ! A. She went 5th 

 July, and returned 12th September. 



Q. What was the highest catch made by any of your vessels that 

 year ? A. 336 barrels. 



Q. Will you explain to the Commission what this statement purports 

 to be ? A. A table showing the voyages of my vessels during I860, 

 1861, and 1862. 



Witness banded in the following statement : 



