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catches of Mr. Steele's vessels in the bay for 17 years? A. I do not 

 think such is the general result. 



Q. You said just now that it was ? A. Yes. 



Q. To which statement do you adhere ? A. I adhere to what* I have 

 said : that the general average of Mr. Steele's vessels in the bay is not 

 a fair estimate, because he did not pay any attention to the American 

 shore fisheries. 



Q. You said a moment ago that this was the case, and that it was.not 

 the case; and I want to know which you really mean. A. I mean what 

 I say. 



Q. You stated in your examination on page 359, that Mr. Steele's firm 

 was among the firms which were most successful, whether on your shore 

 or in the Gulf of St. Lawrence that he was one of the most successful 

 on your own shore and in the gulf. A. I beg your pardon. I never 

 said that ; or if I did say so, I did not mean to say that he was the most 

 successful on our shore. 



Q. The counsel put you this question : 



Q. To how many firms do you refer? A. These include the most successful firms* 

 George Steele, &c. 



Q. Those are the firms that had been the most successful, whether on our shore or 

 in the Gulf of St. Lawrence ; which are considered to be the most successful firms in 

 Gloucester? A*. George Steele, Leighton & Co., Dennis & Ayer, and Smith & Gott. 



Q. These are generally considered to be the most successful firms ? A. Yes. 



A. I did mean to say that his firm was among the most success- 

 u 1 firms on our shore. I did not clearly understand the question at 

 fthe time. 



Q. You did not mean to say that ? A. I did mean to say that this 

 included in the aggregate the most successful firms in Gloucester, and 

 I included George Steele as one of those firms ; and I do consider him 

 to be one of the most successful firms in the fishing business. 



Q. You did not mean to say that his was one of the most successful 

 firms regarding the fishery on your coast ? A. Xo ; but he was classed 

 with the others. 



Q. And if you are reported here as having said so, you wish to ex- 

 plain the matter in that way ? A. Certainly. 



Q. I want to know whether, as an actual fact, the figures produced 

 by you concerning the periods of time for which Mr. Steele was engaged 

 in the fishery on the American coast, and in the fishery in the Gulf of 

 St. Lawrence, do not show a result entirely opposite to that made out 

 in this statement relative to the years 1869 and 1876, which you have 

 put iu ? A. That may be so. 



Q. Is this the case or not ? Is the result as to the relative values of 

 the American shore fishery and the Gulf of St. Lawrence fishery the 

 same in the statement you have filed for the years 1869 and 1875 as it 

 is when you compare the results of the whole 17 years during which 

 Mr. Steele wa^ engaged in these two fisheries ? A. The result is the 

 same as regards this statement. 



Q. But does the result shown by the one statement exactly coincide 

 with the results shown by the other statement as to the relative values 

 of the two fisheries, or does such comparison show that the bay fishery 

 is far more valuable than the American shore fisheries ? A..You mean 

 by Mr. Steele's trips ? 



Q. Yes. A. Taking Mr. Steele's statement alone it would show that, 

 if you do not take into consideration any other consideration connected 

 with it. 



Q. Taking Steele's statement as it appears here, does it not show that 



