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ge l 8 f A. I see that Mr. Steele, in making up bis voyages, has charged 

 for the bait used, but has not taken in all the bait they carried. 



Q. How do you know that ? A. Don't you see 27 barrels. 



Q. Just tell me what there is to justify you in supposing that? A. 

 Well, there was 27 barrels used in catching 219 barrels of mackerel 

 according to that. They will be likely to carry more bait than 27 barrels. 



Q. But you find, I understand, that there is no credit to the stock 

 charges in the books ? A. I don't see any. 



Q. You can flnd them ? A. No. 



Q. Now you assume he has only charged the bait actually used. But 



1 want to know this. There is nothing on the face of the book I A. 

 No; there does not appear to be on that book, but I think I have seen 

 it somewhere on some books. 



Q. What schooner was that ? A. The George S. Loring. 



Q. Now, you see if you go by that rule A. You cannot go by any 



rule on bait. 



Q. Well, here is the schooner. She took 226 barrels; but she is 

 charged with 55 barrels of bait ? A. I know it. 



Q. Would you assume from this that he had only charged what was 

 actually used ? A. I should presume so. 



Q. Why ? A. Because, in regard to using bait some vessels and some 

 skippers use very much more bait than others. Some of the most suc- 

 cessful skippers are most liberal with bait. 



Q. In other words, you just assume that what was there was actually 

 used ? A. Because I see no more, and from my judgment of the way 

 the mackerel are caught. Here is a credit schooner Charles Carroll ; 

 she was in Bay St. Lawrence in 1863 ; debtor 40 barrels slivers, 12 bar- 

 rels clams, less 4 barrels slivers and 1 barrel of clams sold to schooner 

 Madame Roland. 



Q. Madame Roland is another of his vessels that is in the commence- 

 ment of the account. Well, we will take a vessel that is going to haul 

 up. A. There is the schooner Austerlitz. She had 8 barrels of clams, 

 " less 1 barrel clams left." There is another where she ran short of 

 bait and got it from another vessel. Here is the schooner Grenada. 



Q. What year ? A. 1863. Eighteen barrels slivers, 6 barrels clams, 



2 barrels from schooner Altamaha in bay, less 7 barrels bait left. 



Q. Well, in that other book we examined underneath your hand, I 

 would like to know if you could find any in that ? A. No; I don't see 

 any. 



Q. So I presume there is none left ; either none left or none credited ? 

 A. If there was any left it was taken out of the bait before the bait was 

 entered on the trip-book, because I know the bait is always accounted 

 for at the end of the voyage. 



Q. Was Mr. Steele accustomed to take out licenses ? A. He was. 



Q. How are they charged ? In the trip-books ? A. I think they are. 

 I think I saw them on the trip-books. 



Q. You are sure of that? A. I am pretty certain. 



Q. That they are charged on the trip-books against the voyage, part 

 of stock charges f A. Yes. 



Q. That would be then that the owner would pay half and the crew 

 half ? A. What year were they ? 



Q. 1866 and 1867. If they were charged in that way/ the owner 

 would pay half and the crew half? A. If they are charged in that 

 wav yes. 



Q. Can you give me the name of some one vessel that took a license ? 



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