AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2659 



By Mr. Whiteway : 



Q. Have you ever been personally engaged in packing mackerel ? A. 

 1 have. 



Q. Curing fish ? A. Yes ; I have. 



Q. Are you quite clear there is any salt used in the curing of fish 

 after having been put into the waterhouse and washed out? A. No, 

 sir ; there is none. 



Q. I thought you were mistaken in your examination on that sub- 

 ject? A. I stated that there was salt put in before it was waterhawsed. 



Q. Is there any before it is waterhawsed? A. There is. 



Q. Are you clear on that? A. Yes ; there is about four barrels in a 

 butt, that is, eight quintals. 



Q. Yon are quite clear on that? A. I am. 



Q. Now, you gave us a statement of the operations of the Pharsalia 

 on a Grand Bank voyage in 1875. That vessel was. out how long ? A. 

 Three months and eight days. 



Q. In 1875 ? A. Yes, sir. 



Q. You took this from the trip-book? A. I did. 



Q. Well, now, what induced you to make the selection of this trip as 

 an illustration of the cost of a vessel using fresh bait and going to the 

 Grand Bank? A. Because it covered so many ports which she entered, 

 and the different rates charged for ice and bait. 



Q. Is it not the most expensive trip that is in that book ? A. I think 

 not. 



Q. Turn up the other that is more extensive. See if you can find a 

 more expensive trip than that. What years does that event cover ? A. 

 1874, 1875, and a portion of 1876. 



Q. Now is not this the most expensive trip made by any vessel using 

 fresh bait during these years ? A. After referring to the book it may 

 be. From what examination I have made, I think it may be. 



Q. As far as you have gone, you find it to be the most expensive 

 trip? A. Yes. 



Q. Now, in contrast to that, you take the trip of a schooner Madam 

 Roland using salt bait, for the year, 1873, is it not ? A. Yes. 



Q. She fitted with salt bait? A. Yes. 



Q. Now, on the other hand, the result of that trip was particularly 

 prosperous ? A. No, sir. 



,Q. For that year? A. For that year. 



Q. Have you the trip-book ? A. Yes, I have. (Beads from memo- 

 randum as follows:) 



Schooner George B. Loring. 



Trip-book No. 9, page 32. Trip to Grand Bank, with salt bait, from June 8th to 

 August 30th, 18742 months 22 days $2,835.97 net stock. Page 91. From Septem- 

 ber 10th to November 27th, 2 months 17 days, with fresh bait, $1,533.03 net stock. 



Schooner Everett Steele. 



Trip-book No. 9, July 21 to September 22nd, 1873. Salt bait, $3,756.25 net stock. 

 Schooner Madam Roland. 



Book 8, page 342, June 19 to Aug. 14, 1873, 2 months 5 days, with salt 'bait stocked, 

 $4,331.80 net stock. Aug. 26 to Oct. 10, 1873, salt bait, 1 month 14 days, stocked 

 ' $2,608.07 net stock. 



Q. Now, how do you know that these vessels used fresh bait as well 

 as salt? A. I presume they did ; that bait was caught on the Banks. 



