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county? A. I should say the fishery at Campobello, Deer Island, and 

 Indian Island would be about equal in value to what it is at Grand Ma- 

 nan. Up the north shore I don't know so much about ; it is not to that 

 extent ; it may be half what it is at Grand Manan. I should think 

 $1,000,000 would cover the whole of the fishery. 



Q. With your knowledge of that fishery and your dealings with the 

 fishermen, and the necessity of knowing what the catch is, would you 

 say that any appreciable portion is caught by American fishermen ? A. 

 No ; I should consider it an English fishery. 



Q. Would you consider there was any possibility for the catch made 

 by American fishermen to be so large as to equal that amounting to 

 $1,000,000 caught by British fishermen ? A. No ; by no means. 



Q. Is it possible that such a state of things should exist without you 

 being acquainted with it? A. No. 



Q. Do you know Mr. James McLean ? A. I know him by sight. 



Q. Do you know where he carries on business J ? A. The firm does 

 business at Letite and Lepreau. 



Q. I want to call your attention to some of his testimony with regard 

 to his estimates of the fishery of Charlotte County, and ask whether 

 you think it correct, and, if not, how it should be reduced. The follow- 

 ing is from Mr. McLean's testimony : 



Q. Judging from your practical knowledge of the fishery, being an owner of fish- 

 ing-vessels and dealing with the men who fish as you do, what do you say, at a low 

 figure, would be the value of the fisheries and the actual worth of the fish caught by 

 British subjects between the points you mention, from Lepreau to Letite ? What 

 would be a fair average value from 1871 ? A. I should estimate the quantity for 

 Charlotte County and the adjoining islands. We all fish ; and it would be difficult to 

 separate the two. 



Q. You are acquainted with the catch of the island as well ? A. Yes. I visit Grand 

 Mauau Island occasionally, and the adjoining islands often. 



Q. What is the catch of the whole ? A. A low estimate for our fishery would be 

 1,000,000 for each year. 



That is about the estimate you made just now ? A. Yes. 

 Q. Then there is the following : 



Q. For British subjects ? A. Yes. 



Q. That is a low estimate ? A. Yes ; I think I am under the mark ; in fact. I hare 

 no doubt of it all. 



Q. And it may be a good deal more ? A. Yes. 



Q. You have not a shadow of a doubt that it is at least a million ? A. No. 



Q. And our American friends take a considerable amount more ? A. They take as 

 many. 



Q. They have more men and more vessels ? A. Yes. 



Q. And they take at least as much ?-^A. Yes ; fully as much as we do, if not 

 more. 



Q. Have you any doubt that they do take more ? A. I believe that they take 

 unore. 



Q. You have no doubt of it? A. No. 



Q. That would make a million dollars' worth taken by them ? A. They must take a 

 million dollars' worth. 



Q. That is the very least calculation ? A. Yes ; I put it down as low as possible, to 

 be safe and sure. 



Q. They take at least as much as we do ? A. I believe that they take more, and 

 they take as much any way. 



Q. The American catch, as well as our own, on which you place an estimate of a 

 .million dollars in value, is taken within three miles of the shore ? A. Yes ; I am 

 confining myself to within the 3-mile limit. 



Are you in a position to say whether that is true or not ? A. I don't 

 think it is true. I think he has made a mistake. 



Q. Do you think your business is such that you would know the fact 

 if it was so f A. Yes. 



