2704 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



*" Q. And otber fish ? A. No ; there is a place at Treat's Island where 

 there is au immense quantity of herring taken. 



Q. Where is that ? A. It is part of Eastport, bat it is an island. It 

 is owned by a man named Treat, who is a resident of Eastport, and a 

 great many herring are taken at that island. 



Q. Do I understand you to say that along the American shore they 

 can catch as many herring as they want ? A. If they followed it as a 

 business they could. 



Q. Why do they not follow it ? A. A good many are engaged in 

 farming. Those living at Eastport, where the weirs are, have large 

 farms there, and do a great deal of farming besides. 



Q. Are all the herring sold at Eastport? Is that the market? A. 

 Yes. 



Q. Did I not understand you that when American vessels came down 

 of late years men came over with herring from Grand Manan ? A. It 

 is a different kind to what is taken in weirs. The weir herring are 

 small herring. 



Q. They don't use them for bait ? A. No. 



Q. Don't you catch large herring on your coast? A. They do in 

 winter. 



Q. They do not take large herring in the weirs ? A. Not to any ex- 

 tent. 



Q. Then there are no large herring taken on your coast ? A. Yes ; 

 there are. 



. Q. How many are taken ? A. There are large herring taken in one 

 of the coves at Eastport. 



Q. Are they taken to any extent ? A. A good many. 



Q. Are they used for bait? A. They can use them for bait, but they 

 are mostly taken in winter and frozen and brought into Eastport and 

 shipped by steamer. 



Q. At what season do the vessels which the fishermen supply with 

 bait come down to Lubec ? A. In the spring. 



Q. If there are so many herring on your coast, why do not American 

 fishermen supply the vessels coming down in the spring for bait ? Ac- 

 cording to you the British fishermen go out and supply them with bait, 

 though they have plenty on their own shores. How do you account for 

 it ? A. There are several reasons. One thing is they would rather buy 

 it from fishermen on the other side. The reason is because there are 

 Englishmen from Campobello on board those vessels and they, of course, 

 will patronize their own people. I will give you an illustration if you 

 will allow me. Last March a gentleman from Gloucester, Mr. Babsou, 

 came to me to get up a quantity of herring to send to the Swedish mar- 

 ket. I bad them put in barrels and sent to my place in Eastport. He 

 employed a man named Calder, of Campobello, to buy herring for him. 

 After he got through there were so many small herring found among 

 them that tbere was a loss on the enterprise, and the small herring had 

 to be sold for smokiug. The fishermen from the otber side who came 

 and wanted to sell, told him tbat Calder would not patronize any ex- 

 cept his own people at Campobello, and but for them, they could have 

 sold him large herring. I don't know what tbere is in the statement; I 

 give it as I got it. 



Q. Do I understand that on board every vessel there are Englishmen 

 who prevent the vessels from dealing with American fishermen? A. I 

 don't know that there are altogether. Every season a great many go 

 from the other side up to Gloucester to ship in those vessels. Eastport 



