AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. .. 2713 



Q. You left there from the 5th to the 20th of October ? A. Yes. 



Q. And the remainder of the season you spent oft' the Cape Breton 

 shore ? A. We did not spend the whole time there ; we might start 

 off and go somewhere else. 



( ,. 1 )oes the weather become blowy about the Magdalen Islands about 

 that period? A. Some years that is the case, and some years it is not. 



Q. I suppose that during the years you were on our coast during the 

 Reciprocity Treaty you fished inshore and off shore and everywhere ? 

 A. There was nothing to stop us doing so, but we could not catch any 

 fish inshore. There was nothing to catch inshore. 



Q. Did you then take particular notice whether you caught your fish 

 in or off shore ? A. I think we did. 



Q. Why? A. I do not know, but we talked the matter over among 

 ourselves, as to how and where we caught our mackerel. 



Q. Did you catch many mackerel near Margaree? A. No: I do not 

 think that we did. 



Q. Do you mean to tell the Commission that the mackerel caught off 

 Margaree are not caught within three miles of the island or within three 

 miles of the shore ? A. 1 have caught mackerel inside of the three-mile 

 limit off Margaree Island. 



Q. When you had the right to fish in there, did you not go within 

 the three-mile limit! A. Yes; I say we did so. 



Q. Was it not your habit and custom to fish within three miles of the 

 shore during the Reciprocity Treaty ? A. No. We used to fish off 

 shore. 



Q. What, then, did you mean by telling Mr. Foster that you fish.ed 

 near Margaree, and that when the cutters were there you fished broad 

 off? A. And when the cutters were not there I fished inshore ? 



Q. That would be the inference ? A. I said that when the cutters 

 were there, I fished broad offshore. 



Q. I presume from this that when the cutters were not there, you 

 fished inside the three-mile limit? A. I do not know about that. 



Q. Is that correct ? A. We always used to fish offshore, and inshore 

 too. 



Q. Did you take out licenses ? A. We did not. 



Q. Were you in the bay during the license years ? A. Yes. 



Q. During what years were you there? You said that you fished in 

 the bay from 1849 to 1861 then you were not there during the license 

 years'? A. No. 



Q. What were your average catches in the bay? A. 150 and 250 

 barrels; and some years 300 barrels; and one year our catch was COO 

 barrels ; all of which we caught on Banks Bradley and Orphan. 



Q. When was this? A. In 1860. 



Q. You do not know auvthing about fishing in the bay since 1861 ? 

 A. No. 



Q. Or whether the fish have of late years been taken in their old 

 haunts or not? A. No. 



Q. What was the size of the vessel in which you took that large 

 catch ? A. 118 tons. 



Q. Did you ever fish about Seven Islands ? A. No. 



Q. And you never fished much about Prince Edward Island .' A. 

 No, not a great deal ; and I never fished any to the norard of Banks 

 Orphan and Bradley. 



Q. Did you fish there outside of four or five miles from the shore ? 

 A. W*e used to fish there so as just to see New London Head; and we 

 fished from there to North Cape. 



