2718 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. You do not know wbat took place between your captain and Cap- 

 tain Darby ? A. No ; I do not. 



Q. You do not know whether your captain told him fairly enough that 

 he had caught 20 barrels within the limits ? A. No ; I could not say as 

 to that. 



Q. As you say, he just took the fish which you had caught within 

 the limits. Now I will ask you fairly if that was not lettiug you off a 

 great deal easier than you deserved, considering the fact that you had 

 forfeited the vessel and all that was iu it ? A. I do not know about 

 tbat ; it was kind of hard. 



Q. Would it not have been kind of harder if the vessel and all the 

 rest of the cargo had been taken f A. O, yes ; of course. 



Q. Now, were you not very glad to get off as you did ; that spy, the 

 piukey, was too much for you ? A. I told them that I would fight for 

 niy mackerel before I would give them up. 



Q. That is the only experience you have had with the cutters ? A. 

 Yes. 



Q. I think that Captain Darby let you off wonderfully easy in only 

 taking the fish which you had no business to catch, such as were Brit- 

 ish subjects. During all these fourteen years it seems that you never got 

 nearer than within 10 miles of Prince Edward Island ? A. O, yes ; I 

 have been there myself within five and six miles of the shore. 



Q. I thought that you never got nearer than within 10 miles of it ? A. 

 I took out a license once. 



Q. When was this? A. In 1866; but it did not pay. There were no 

 mackerel inshore. 



Q. Had you fished before 1866 within the limits? A. Well, I might 

 have fished within four or five miles or so of the land ; perhaps I might 

 have done so, but 1 could not say. I caught them wherever I could get 

 them. I was, however, rather skittish about going in there, because I 

 owned the best part of the vessel myself, and I would not run any risks. 



Q. But you did so sometimes ? A. I thought I was outside then. 



Q. Do I understand you to say that you never meant to get in with- 

 in the three-mile limit at any time ? A. Not when I owned the vessel 

 myself; only the year when I took out the license, I fished wherever I 

 had a mind to. 



Q. You were afraid of the cutters ? A. Yes ; if I had lost my vessel, 

 I had lost my all. 



Q. And you would not risk it ? A. No. 



Q. During those years when you kept outside, of the three-'nile limit, 

 did you get pretty good fares ? A. Yes. 



Q. Very good ones ? A. Yes ; very good indeed. 



Q. How many barrels would your vessel take ? A. One would only 

 take 267 barrels. 



Q. In all these trips that you made, did you get full fares ? A. Not 

 all ; in 1869 and iu 1867 I did not get full fares. 



Q. Before 1866, did you ever fish inshore ? A. No ; but I caught 29o 

 barrels just iu sight of Entry Island. I got my whole trip off there. I 

 was never inshore at all during that trip. 



Q. If iu previous trips you had managed to get full trips off shore, 

 what induced you in 1866 to pay for a license ? A. I wanted the chance 

 of fishing inshore or offshore, as I might wish. 



Q. What was your object in paying out money for a license, if pre- 

 viously you had got full fares outside? A. Sometimes the fishing at 1 

 Margaree fails, and sometimes there is a school of mackerel there, or so 

 I had been told, for I never saw them there myself. I daresu't go in. 



