AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2719 



Q. The fact of the matter is, that the mackerel are sometimes, accord- 

 ing to your idea, out in the bay, and sometimes they school inshore ; is 

 it not then a privilege to be able to follow them inshore ? A. Yes. 



Q. And the people who have that privilege are better oft' than those 

 who have it not ; the former have a better chance of securing fares ? 

 A. Well, I do not know about that. I could not say that, because I 

 found the mackerel more plentiful offshore than inshore. 



Q. How much did you pay for the license ? A. 50 cents a ton. 



Q. What was the tonnage of your vessel ? A. 49. 



Q. Why did you pay $24.50 for a license, having no object for doing 

 so ? A. I did it so that I could fish where I had a inind to, and so that 

 if I found them inshore I could catch them there. 



Q. And always before that you had found plenty of mackerel in the 

 body of the bay ? A. Yes. 



Q. You never previously fished within the limits at all ! A. Yes ; I 

 did so in 1851. 



Q. Did you fish inshore in 1851 ? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you get good fares that year? A. We caught, perhaps, 40 or 

 50 barrels inshore towards the'last of our fishing. 



Q. When were you last in the bay ? A. In 1869. 



Q. I suppose that you have heard that the mackerel have kept inshore 

 much more of late years than was formerly the case ? A. No ; I do not 

 know anything about it, because the vessels have not been doing any- 

 thing. All the vessels say that they have not been doing anything at 

 all. 



Q. Have you heard that the mackerel have kept inshore of late years 

 more than they did previously ? A. No ; I have not. 



Q. Then in all those voyages you never went inshore to fish, except 

 iti 1851 and in 1866, when you took out a license? A. No; not inside 

 the limits. 



Q. You kept off' shore all the time? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you get full fares all the time ? A. I did not get full fares in 

 1869 and 1867. 



Q. And yet you did not try inshore at all? A. No; because the ves- 

 sels which went inshore did not get anything. 



Q. And you would not try inshore? A. I would not run the risk. 



y. Did you ever fish in the Bay of Chaleurs ? A. No ; never. 



Q. Have you never heard that good fishing was to be had on the 

 northern shore of Prince Edward Island ? A. No. 



Q. You never have ? A. No. 



Q. Not from any one ? A. No. I went round the island once. 



Q. You have never heard from anybody that there is good fishing 

 along the northern shore of Prince Edward Island, within the three-mile 

 limit ? A. No. 



Q. Well, then, in your opinion the privilege of fishing within three 

 miles of the shore along the British coasts is of no value at all to Amer- 

 ican fishermen? A. It is not* a great deal of value to them, I should 

 think. 



Q. Is it of any value ? A. I suppose it is some at times. I suppose 

 therQ are times when the vessels themselves would benefit by it. 



Q. Was it so in 1854 and before 1854 ? You recollect when the lie- 

 ciprocity Treaty was entered into ? A. Yes. 



Q. Was it a privilege then ? A. I was not in the bay then. 



Q. You were there in 1850 and 1851 ? A. Yes. 



Q. Were you there in 1852 and 1853 ! A. No. 



Q. When were you next in the bay ? A. In 1855, I believe. 



