2724 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Take the result of your experience. Do you think it would be 

 more beneficial as regards the pecuniary results of the trips to go in for 

 fresh bait or to take salt bait, and rely on what fresh bait you can catch 

 at the Banks and stay out f A. To stay out would be more profitable 

 to me. 



Q. You admit that fresh bait is better side by side than salt bait? A. 

 Tes. 



Q. Then what is the reason why you think it is better to stay out with 

 salt bait? A. On account of the time you lose in going in and the 

 money it costs to get it. 



Q. "To get it and keep it ? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you find it pretty expensive! A. I found it very expensive. 



By Mr. Davies : 



Q. For the last 'sixteen years you have been fishing on your own 

 shores, catching fresh fish for market? A. Some parts of the season I 

 have. 



Q. Have you been cod-fishing portions of the seasons ? A. Yes. 



Q. Have you been on the Banks ? A. Yes. 



Q. From 1866 to 1876 I believe you were off your own coast catching 

 fresh fish for market? A. Yes. 



Q. So that for those ten years you know nothing of the mode of fish- 

 ing on the Banks from personal experience ? A. No. 



Q. Previous to ten years ago, the system of fishing with fresh bait had 

 not come into vogue, had it ? A. Yes, I think it had before ten years 

 ago. 



Q. Do you think that before ten years ago Bank codfishermen were 

 accustomed to take fresh bait or to run in to the coast for it ? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you ever try it yourself? A. Yes. 



Q. Where did you go for fresh bait ? A. Round Cape Sable, and 

 round to a place called Pubnico. 



Q. Did yon fish on the Grand Banks of Newfoundland at all ? A. 

 Not at that time. 



Q. You never fished with fresh bait there ? A. No. 



Q. You don't know 'any thing about running into Newfoundland for 

 fresh bait ? A. No. 



Q. You were on Georges Banks ? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you run in from Georges Bank for fresh bait f A. Yes. 



Q. Have you got any memorandum of the results of the voyages ? 

 A. No. 



Q. You cannot remember them ? A. No; I did not think it was nec- 

 essary. 



Q. And you cannot tell, of course, what the results were? A. No. 



Q. And therefore you don't know whether one was better than the 

 other? A. I remember going into Cape Sable for bait to go on Banquero 

 after halibut and codfish. I cannot remember the name of the harbor 

 where we went ; it is a great place to go and get fresh bait. 



Q. How many times did you run in for fresh bait from the Georges ? 

 A. About a dozen times. 



Q. In one season ? A. In different seasons. 



Q. Have you ever gone and fished on the Georges solely with salt 

 bait? A. No. 



Q. Or anywhere else on the Grand Banks ? A. Yes, I have on the 

 Grand Banks. 



Q. How many seasons were you on the Grand Banks ? A. Two or 

 three. 



