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Q. When was that ? A. I dou't remember tbe year ; some time dur- 

 iug the ten years. We made one trip there. We would go in the win- 

 ter market fishing, and in the summer would make a trip to the Banks. 



Q. During the last 14 years you have never been in Bay St. Law- 

 rence fishing ? A. I think I was there in 1873 in the Franklin S. Schank. 



Q. That is a memorandum you made up from your memory ? A. Yes. 



Q. Eefer to it again. You stated in answer to Mr. Dana that 1S63 

 was the last year you were in the bay? A. Yes. 



Q. Then for the last fourteen years you have not been in the bay fish- 

 ing? A. No. 



Q.. Then you know nothing about where the fish were caught during 

 those fourteen years ? A. No. I cannot answer it exactly, because my 

 figures dou't agree. My dates don't agree with my conscience. I have 

 got it that I was there in 1873 in the Franklin S. Schank, and you have 

 put it at 1863. I was in the Franklin S. Schank in 1873. 



Q. Then you were not in that vessel in 1863 ? A. No. 



Q. Where were you in 1863 ? A. I must have been on our shores. I 

 took notes of the years when I was in the bay, but of the years when I 

 was on our shore and at the Banks I did not. 



Q. Could you from your memory state accurately what years you 

 were in the bay? A. My memory fails me. I have not a good mem- 

 ory. 



Q. You cannot tell from memory the years you were in the bay ? A. 

 No, unless I were to sit down and think it over. 



Q. Irrespective of that one trip in the Franklin S. Schank in the fall ot 

 1873, you have not been in the bay for fourteen years ? A. No. 



Q. During all those years you do not pretend to say where the fish 

 were caught ? A. I do not. 



Q. As to the Franklin S. Schank, what became of her? A. She was 

 owned in Rockport. 



Q. Was she not seized ? A. Yes. 



Q. In what year ? A. The year she was built. I don't remember 

 what the year was. She was seized and went to Quebec. 



Q. Was she sold ? A. Yes, and the parties bought her back. 



Q. What was she condemned and sold for ? A. For net fishing within 

 the limits. 



Q. She was sold and condemned ? A. Yes; that was before I went in 

 her. 



Q. She was bought back and then you went in her ? A. Yes. 



Q. What time of the year did you come to the bay in her on the fall 

 trip in 1873 ? A. About the 15th of September we left home. 



Q. I suppose you got down to the bay about the 25th ? A. About 

 20th or aleag there. 



Q. Where did you go ? A. We went to the Magdalen Islands." 



Q. Is it customary for vessels^to go to Magdalen Islands after 25th 

 September ? A. It is. 



Q. I understood they generally left about 25th September or 1st Oc- 

 tober? A. Some do not leave there till the weather blows them away. 



Q. When is that? A. When the anchors won't hold on the bottom. 



Q. When is that ? A. About tbe last of November. 



Q. Are you sure in stating that? A. Yes. 



Q. That mackerel-fishing .vessels remain there till the last 'of Novem- 

 ber ? A. Yes ; I staid myself. 



Q. In what year? A. I dou't remember the year. 



Q. You have not been there for 14 years? A. I know I have not. 



