AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2737 



Q. Will you tell me how you estimate this that about 25 per cent, of 

 your supply will come from the bay and 75 per cent, from your shore, 

 if you do not know the number caught? A. I do not know definitely ; 

 I do not say that 25 per cent, would come from the bay but it would be 

 about that 25 or 30 per cent. 



Q. How is it possible to give a percentage if you do not know the 

 number of barrels caught ? A. I have not made an estimate of the 

 number; I makeup this estimate from what I have seen of vessels 

 coming in from the bay and from the boat fishing. 



Q. Do you mean to say that you have come here to make this state- 

 ment based on no certain knowledge of any kind, and that under these 

 i iirnmstances you swear to the percentage that will come from the bay, 

 when you do not know the number of barrels of mackerel which have 

 been caught in the bay ? A. No; I do not confine myself to any per- 

 centage ; but I give the best estimate I am able to form in this relation. 



Q. Is it to make a statement concerning matters about which you do 

 not know anything that you presume to come here and give the per- 

 centage that will come into the American market from the bay, and the 

 percentage that will come from your own shore, without knowing what 

 the catches have been in the bay, and on the American coast? Can any 

 man in his senses make a percentage without any basis for it ? A. I 

 got it by inquiring from parties who had been there. 



Q. Tell me how many barrels did you learn from inquiry had been 

 taken on the American coast? A. I cannot tell you. 



Q. How many, did you learn from your inquiries, were taken in the 

 bay? A. Well, a large portion of the mackerel which has been caught 

 this year in the bay has been taken by your boats, and they come into 

 our market. When I speak about mackerel coming into our market 

 from the bay, I mean that your folks ship them. 



Q. I want to find out how many barrels these people told you came 

 from the bay, so as to enable you to form an opinion as to the percent- 

 age? A. Well, I would not confine myself to any rule about that mat- 

 ter. 



Q. In point of fact, after swearing that 75 per cent, of the mackerel 



will come from your shore, and 25 per cent, from the bay A. I beg 



your pardon. 



Q. I take it that in giving me an answer to any sort of a question, 

 you are swearing to such answer ? A. I did not speak so precisely. 



Q. You understand that you are answering questions under oath? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. Will you tell me what earthly basis you have for saying that only 

 25 per cent, of your supply of mackerel would come from the bay, and 

 75 per cent, from your own coast? A. I say so from information that I 

 have gathered from parties who have been there. 



Q. What information is that? A. It is that there has been a large 

 catch of mackerel taken by the boats, up and down and around the 

 island ; it has been a very large catch, an exceedingly large catch, and 

 an unusually large catch. I do not know whether this is so or not ; I 

 have not seen the catch, but it is. on that report that I base my estimate. 



Q. And because there has been an unusually large catch in the bay, 

 you say that 25 per cent, of your supply would come thence ? A. I 

 mean the catch by the boats the small boats and not by our fisher- 

 men. 



Q. And this mackerel goes to the American market? A. Yes. 



Q. You have heard this, and do you give that as a reason why only 

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