2738 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



25 per cent, of your supply should come from the bay, and 75 per cent, 

 from your own coast ? A. Yes. 



Q. I could understand it if you reversed the percentages ? A. If you 

 saw 500 sail of seiners off Cape Ann, you would begin to think that 

 though they all got only 100 barrels apiece, still a great many fish 

 would be taken. 



Q. Did all these vessels get 100 barrels apiece ? A. I do not think 

 that they did ; I say, if they did. 



Q. Will you swear that 15,000 barrels of mackerel have been caught 

 on your coast this year ? A. Yes, I swear so ; I have not seen the 

 figures to make up statistics on, but I make them up on my own judg- 

 ment ; yes, sir. 



Q. Did you see the fish being taken ? A. No ; only partially. I saw 

 some taken. 



Q. You are speaking at random altogether ? A. I have no statistics. 



Q. Because you saw the seiners, you say that they must take so much 

 without any inquiry as to the facts ? A.. I have seen them taking fish, 

 more or less. 



Q. Do you swear that 15,000 barrels have been taken on your shore 

 this year? A. No; I would not swear that 15,000 barrels have been 

 taken. 



Q. You will not swear what quantity has been taken ? A. No ; but 

 to the best of my opinion 15,000 barrels have been taken. 



Q. Do you know what quantity has been taken this year on your 

 shore? A. No. 



Q. Do you know what quantity has been taken this year in the 

 bay ? A. No. 



Q. And all you know about the bay mackerel fishery is that an un- 

 usually large catch has been made there this year ? A. Yes ; by the 

 boats. 



Q. And you admit that on your own coast this has been a very bad 

 season? A. Yes. 



Q. And, therefore, because you have heard that in the bay there has 

 been an unusually large catch, and because on your own coast there has 

 been an unusually small catch, you think that your own coast will send 

 in 75 per cent, of the mackerel to your market, as against 25 per cent, 

 from the bay ? A. I think so ; that is my opinion. 



Q. In what vessel were you in 1868? A. The Veteran, I think. 



Q. Who was her captain ? A. Mitchell. 



Q. How many barrels of mackerel did you catch ? A. Two hundred 

 and thirty. 



Q. What was her tonnage ? A. About 70, I think. 



Q. What was her full cargo ? A. Three hundred or three hundred 

 and twenty-five barrels. , 



Q. Then you got pretty nearly a full fare ? A. We obtained a little 

 over two thirds of it. 



Q. Where did you fish ? A. Around the Magdalen Islands and on 

 Banks Bradley and Orphan. 



Q. You did not attempt to go inshore? A. No. 



Q. And, although you had not a full cargo, you fished about the places 

 you have named, and did not go inshore to complete your cargo, although 

 you had a license ? A. Yes. 



Q. Why did you take out a license ? A. We did not know where the 

 mackerel were when we got through the Gut of Canso, and so we thought 

 we would take out a license. 



Q. Do 1 understand you to say that on coming into the bay you did 



