AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2775 



Q. Where? A. Coming out of Cascumpeque and Malpeque. 



Q. Was that within the three miles ! A. Yes. 



Q. Did you try in Bay Chaleurs? A. Yes. 



Q. At Margaree T A. Yes. 



Q. Did you get any mackerel? A. There were no mackerel there that 

 year. We tried, also, off Port Hood, and did not get any there. 



Q. Then there were no mackerel at all inshore that year ? A. We 

 did not get any. 



Q. Were there any catches made in the bay that year ? A. Yes. 



Q. And notwithstanding that cutters were in the bay you went in- 

 shore to fish ? A. We tried coming out of harbors. I don't suppose the 

 cutters saw. 



Q. What did you go in for ? A. We went in for a harbor. I said 

 that in coming out of harbors we tried. 



Q. All the trying you did was when you made for harbors, and tried 

 coming out ? A. Yes. 



Q. You really did not try anywhere at all? A. It is so long ago I 

 cannot recollect. 



Q. Yet you recollect that in 1852 you caught 25 or 30 barrels at Mar- 

 garee ? A. I recollect that because the cutter was coming down, and 

 we got under way and stood out. 



Q. That was the reason you did not catch any more ? A. Yes ; I 

 have no doubt about it 



Q. There was good fishing inshore there ?-^A. Yes; very good. 



Q. And you went out of the bay because you could not fish inshore? 

 Did you try at Margaree in 1853 ? A. There were no mackerel at Mar- 

 garee that year. 



Q. Did you try at the Magdalen Islands ? A. Yes; we caught a few 

 there; very few. 



Q. In answer to Mr. Dana, you said you only fished on Bradley and 

 Orphan Banks, and did not fish inshore ? A. That was where I caught 

 my fish. 



Q. If you fished that year at Magdalen Islands, why did you not say 

 so to Mr. Dana ? A. We did not catch any mackerel there. I under- 

 stood Mr. Dana wanted to know where we took our mackerel, and I said 

 at Banks Bradley and Orphan. We tried toward Magdalen Islands and 

 at Margaree and Prince Edward Island. 



Q. You mean you did try at Magdalen Islands, but did not catch 

 any! A. Yes. 



Q. How long, did you stay at Magdalen Islands ? A. We might have 

 been there one or two days. 



Q. What time of the year was it ? A. In September, I think. 



Q. Why did you go away from there ? A. It is no use to stay there 

 if no mackerel are there. 



Q. Is it stormy round Magdalen Islands at all ? A. Yea. 



Q. Do you consider it an unsafe place to fish late in the season ? A. 

 Yes. 



Q. Is it usually so considered among fishermen ? A. I believe so. 



Q. Is it one of the most dangerous places in the bay? A. I don't 

 consider it half so dangerous as at Prince Edward Island. 



Q. What part of Prince Edward Island is twice as dangerous as 

 Magdalen Islands ? A. In the bend of the island. "" 



Q. Are there no harbors there ? A. Yes ; there are harbors, but they 

 are hard harbors to get into. 



Q. Have you been there of late years to see if there are any harbors 

 of refuge there ? A. I have not. 



