AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2777 



Q. And if any person, either a United States fisherman or otherwise, 

 makes any trouble about getting the right to fish within the three miles 

 for their vessels, you think he is foolish ? A. I think so. I think they 

 will be fools to pay anything for it. 



Q. If they can get the fishing without paying for it, they will not be 

 fools? A. There are very few fish inshore anyway. 



Q. Even now that is so ? A. I don't know. I have not been there 

 lately. I could not say. 



Q. You don't know any thing about it practically since 1853? A. Not 

 practically. 



Q. You seriously swear you would not give one cent -for the inshore 

 fisheries? -A. At that time I would not. 



Q. That is in 1854. Have you heard that they have since been very 

 much better ? A. I have not. 



Q. Would you rather have one cent in your pocket than the grant of 

 all these fisheries 1 A. I think I should. 



By Mr. Dana : 



Q. I suppose you think, in that case, you would have to carry them 

 about? A. Yes. 



Q. If you had a large number of vessels and you intended to send 

 them to the bay to fish, would you send them if you had to pay for the 

 right of inshore fishing? A. No; I would not. 



Q. And the result of your experience is that it would not pay -to send 

 them into the bay to fish ? A. No ; as far as my experience goes. 



Q. About sails. Are there not great efforts made to procure some- 

 thing to prevent the effect of fog and mildew on sails ? A. Yes. 



Q. It is considered a very serious evil ? A. Yes. 



Q. More so than ordinary storm and rain ? A. Yes. 



Q. I suppose seafaring-men, when they get into harbor, after a storm 

 of wind and rain, dry the sails? A. Yes. 



Q. A few days of rain followed by sunshine would not hurt a vessel 

 so much as long-continued dampness ? A. No. 



No. 67. 



JAMES W. PATTILLO, of North Stoughton, Mass., retired fisherman, 

 called on behalf of the Government of the United States, sworn and 

 examined. 



By Mr. Trescot : 



Question. How old are you? Answer. 71 years on 29th September 

 last. 



Q. You have been aftisherman in your day ? A. Yes. 



Q. And have fished a good deal? A. All the way along from 1834 

 to 1868. 



Q. Were you fishing all that time? A. The best part of it; some 

 part of the time I was not. 



Q. What were you doing when you were]not fishing? A. I was agent 

 two years for the insurance company. 



Q. Whereabouts? A. Down at Cape Breton Island, at Port Hood, 

 looking out for American vessels. 



Q. From 1834 to 1868, how often were you skipper ? A. I was skip- 

 per in 1838. 



Q. How many years I A. 1839, 1840, and all the way along pretty 

 much. 



