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it would come out of the common stock the whole stock; oue-half 

 would be paid by the crew, and one-halt' by the owner. I suppose so 

 I do not know ; but that is my impression. 



Q. In the report concerning the issue of fishing licenses, for fishing 

 inshore in Canadian waters, it is-stated that in 1866 a license was taken 

 oat by the Scotland, J. W. Pattils, of Gloucester, Mass.? A. There is 

 no person of that name. James W. Pattillo is my name. 



Q. The name entered here is J. W. Pattils probably a misprint and 

 the tonnage of the Scotland is given as 78 ; that, I suppose, would be 

 ordinary tonnage, not carpenter's measurement! A. I suppose so. 



Q. How many men did she carry ? A. Sometimes 14 and some- 

 times 15. 



Q. She is represented here as having 16 men, and as having paid 50 

 cents per ton for the license, amounting in all to $38.50. There was no 

 other Scotland, J. W. Pattils, of Gloucester, Mass. ; and yet you see that 

 she did take out a license that year ? A. How is that name spelled ! 



(,>. Pattils. A. My name is spelled Pattillo. 



Q. There is no person that spells his name Fattils, that you are aware 

 of, in Gloucester? A. No. 



Q. And your initials are J. W.? A. Yes. 



Q. Can you undertake to say that this entry is wrong, and that such 

 a license was never taken out ? A. Well, I would not pretend to say 

 that statement is wrong ; but I have no recollection of this having been 

 the case. 



Q. At all events, if the captain took it in your absence, and without 

 vour knowledge, he had more respect for the inshore fisheries than yqu 

 have now, apparently ? A. Well, I never paid a cent for a license to 

 my knowledge, though I might have paid for that, but I do not recollect 

 of having done so. I never considered inshore fishing in the bay worth 

 50 cents, nor yet would 1 pay 25 cents for the privilege. 



Q. In answer to Mr. Trescot, you stated you thought that the fishing 

 off the American coast was better than the fishing around Prince Edward 

 Island and in the bay ? A. I think so. 



Q. You spoke of the American coast as "our shore," and in the same 

 breath you said you were born in Nova Scotia ? A. I have been natu- 

 ralized ; and I now call that our shore. I have become a citizen of the 

 United States. 



Q. When were you naturalized ? A. In 1836, I think ; I have the 

 paj>ers to show. 



Q. The oath you have thus taken is not merely, I believe, an oath of 

 allegiance as a citizen of the United States, but also an oath of abroga- 

 tion of allegiance to Queen Victoria and the sovereigns of Great Brit- 

 ain? A. I think that when I was sworn, which was in open court, I 

 swore to be true to the United States of America, and I also swore alle- 

 giance against Great Britain and Ireland and all Her Majesty's domin- 

 ions. 



Q. I thought so. A. And I have trieJ to be loyal to the United States 

 ever since. 



Q. You came from Nova Scotia, and you say you swore allegiance 

 against Nova Scotia when you took this oath ? A. Well, I wanted to 

 have the right and privilege of any citizen, and I could not secure that 

 without going through this preliminary. 



Q. And after that you tried to keep your oath, and you have been 

 heart and soul an American citizen ever since I A. Yes; certainly. 



Q. And you regard this question, which is,now to be determined by 

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