AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2875 



mean to say you did not ? A. You asked me if I was there at Mar- 

 garee. 



Q. I asked you how many you took within the three-mile limit, and 

 you said from 15 to 20. Now you say you didn't do anything of the 

 kind ? A. I don't say I didn't. 



Q. Didn't you tell me just now you took those within three miles? 

 A. I might have answered that. 



Q. Did you tell the truth when you did say so ? 



Mr. TRESOOT. I wish to enter my respectful protest against the style 

 of cross examination. 



Mr. THOMSON. I enter my counter-protest against the witness evad- 

 ing plain questions. 



Q. Didn't you tell me just now, within the last ten minutes, that you 

 canght from 15 to 20 barrels within the three-mile limit off Margaree? 

 A. I stated that we caught from 15 to 20 barrels while we were there. 

 We might have been, I hava said, inside of three miles. 



Q. Have you any doubt about it ? A. I have no doubt we were in- 

 side the limits. 



Q. When you took the 15 or 20 barrels? A. We might not have 

 taken them all. 



Q. How many do you swear you took inside the limits! A. I could 

 not say whether we were all the time inside the three miles. 



Q. 1 don't care whether you were all the time or half the time; but 

 how many barrels will you swear you took within the limits? A.- 1 

 can't say. 



Q. Will you swear to five? A. Yes. 



Q. Will you swear to ten ? A. No. 



Q. Then you swear positively it was between five and ten, and noth- 

 ing over? A. I would not swear positively over that. 



Q. How many did you get? A. I will swear to five barrels. 



Q. Five is as high as you will go, after telling me you caught 20 bar- 

 rels within three miles? A. No; I said around that place. 



Q. Will you swear you caught one single barrel outside the limits 

 around Margaree? A. I could not say that we were at the time three 

 miles off all the time or three miles in. 



Q. Then your evidence is this, if I understand you : You swear posi- 

 tively that you took five barrels within the limits; and you won't swear 

 that you took one single barrel outside the limits. That is the extraor- 

 dinary testimony you give now. I ask you, will you swear that you 

 took a single barrel outside, and you say you will not ? A. I say I can 

 swear. 



Q. Didn't you tell me I asked you if you would swear that you 

 caught a single barrel outside, and you said you could not! A. 1 didn't 

 understand you. 



Q. What was your answer? A. I said yes, sir. 



Q. Didn't you answer that you could not undertake to say ? A. I 

 didn't mean it if I did ; not by any means. 



Q. Now, your next trip was when ? A. 1853. 



Q. Where did you fish then ? A. On the same grounds. 



Q. Were you master then? A. No; I was a hand. All my time in 

 the bay I was a hand. 



Q. Did jou fish then within the three-mile limit? A. We fished in 

 the fall on the same grounds, at Margaree and Cheticamp. 



Q. Do you mean to say those were the only places you fished within 

 the limits that is, Cheticamp and Margaree? A. We fished up the 

 island, on Bradley and Orphan and at the Magdalens. 



