2876 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Do you call that fishing within the limits ? A. No. 



Q. Then I come back to your fishing on Margaree and Cheticamp. 

 Do I understand you only fished within the limits at Margaree and 

 Cheticamp? A. Yes. 



Q. How many did you take? A. Probably about 40 barrels. 



Q. Now you understand my question, how many barrels did you take 

 at Margaree and Cheticamp within the limits? Your answer is 40 bar- 

 rels. Is- that right ? Did you take off Margaree and Cheticamp, out- 

 side the limits, any fish ? A. When we worked across from the Mag- 

 daleus we fished across outside the limits. 



Q. You just took 40 barrels within the limits? A. To the best of my 

 knowledge. 



Q. Those yon certainly did take within the limits? On that occasion 

 were there a number of American vessels fishing around you ? A. I 

 could not tell you the number, whether there were more or less. 



Q. I want to know whether there was a number of American vessels 

 around you. There were vessels ? A. Yes. 



Q. Can you give me any idea how many ? A. I cannot. 



Q. Over ten? A. I could not say. 



Q. Could you say there were not twenty? A. Yes. 

 . Q. Will you swear there were five ? A. I should think there was five 

 the time we were fishing. 



Q. They were also fishing, were they? A. Yes. 



Q. Now what was the tonnage of your schooner on that occasion ? 

 A. About 90 tons, carpenters' measurement. 



Q. She carried a cargo of 400 barrels ? A. No, 275. 



Q. Was that a full cargo ? A. No, she carried about 300 barrels. 



Q. Now during all that time you did not fish anywhere around the 

 coast of New Brunswick, Bay Chaleurs, or Prince Edward Island ? A. 

 No. 



Q. Why didn't you fish within three miles ? A. All our fishing was 

 on the Cape Breton side. 



Q. Why didn't you fish along the Prince Edward Island shore ? A. 

 Because we were not on that coast. 



Q. You were on the coast if you were on the Orphan Bank. That is 

 a very little distance from the coast ; why didn't you fish inshore there ? 

 A. We didn't resort there. 



Q. Why ? Were you afraid of cutters ? A. Yes : the large one was 

 there, and the small one, too, and the sailing-schooners. 



Q. What time did you leave the bay that year ? A. In the latter part 

 of October. 



Q. And you didn't get a full cargo ? A. No. 



Q. Do you know anything about the inshore fisheries, of your own 

 knowledge, at all, except at Margaree and Chetticamp ? A. No. 



Q. You never have fished inshore except there ? A. That is all. 



Q. Never at any time ? A. No. 



Q. What time did you go next into the bay ? A. 1854. 



Q. After the Reciprocity Treaty ? A. Yes. 



Q. Then you had the liberty of fishing inshore ? A. Yes. 



Q. Do you swear that you never tried inshore, although you had the 

 liberty ? A. We had the liberty then of going in to get water. 



Q. And to fish too? A. We took the opportunity, as we came out of 

 the harbor, or anything like that, to try as we went off. 



Q. Didn't you know you had as good a right as the British fisher- 

 men? A. Yes. 



Q. .Didn't you try! A. Yes. 



