AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2897 



Q. The demand for fresh mackerel has increased a good deal of late 

 years f A. It doubles and quadruples every year. 



(.1. A considerable portion of the catch on the American store is soud 

 in the fresh state ? A. Well, yes ; I should say that a larg< portion of 

 it is so sold, and it is increasing. 



Q. And that necessarily opens the door for the sale of salt mackerel ? 

 A. I think it shuts the door. 



Q. Do you think that the consumption of fresh fish takes place in the 

 States in the West ? A. No ; it does not go West. 



Q. I thought you said fresh fish were carried as far as California ? 

 A. Yes, fresh sea-fish. 



Q. That is what I am talking of, fresh mackerel; it is a sea-fish? A. 

 Yes. 



Q. Is its consumption spreading all along the railways? A. Yes. 



Q. And through all the towns ? A. Yes ; at certain seasons of the 

 year. 



Q. The necessary result is that this takes up a portion of the catch on 

 the American coast. You said a large portion of it was consumed in 

 the fresh state ? A. Well, it is. You mean to say that the catch of 

 fresh mackerel, which is a large portion of the whole catch, affects the 

 catch of fish off the American coast. 



Q. I understood you to say that a large portion of the catch is con- 

 sumed in the fresh state ? A. Yes ; it is, however, not the greater, but 

 a large part of the catch which is so consumed. 



Q. Was this statement which you have put in made up by you per- 

 sonally ? A. It was made up by my brother. 



Q. Is he in your firm now ? A. Yes. 



Q. What is his name ? A. John J. 



(,. Is this his handwriting? A. No. 



Q. Is that the handwriting of Mr. Low, who was here the other 

 day? A. Yes. 



Q. Then it was not made up by your brother, but by Mr. Low ? A. 

 No ; that is a copy of what was made up by my brother. I do not know 

 if I have the original in my pocket, but I have it all on one sheet. 



Q. Is this the form in which your brother made it up ? A. Yes. I 

 want to keep the other one. 



Q. You do not know how he got at the values, do you ? A. They 

 are taken from the stocks of fishing-vessels ; that is, when the stock of 

 the trip is netted : that is, deducting the packing and other expenses. 

 This is the net stock which is divided among the crew and owners. 



Q. This is the valuation at which you settle with the crew ? A. Yes; 

 that is what is divided among the owners and crew. 



Q. This does not purport to be the value at which the fish were after- 

 ward sold in the market ? A. That is part of the price we would obtain 

 in the market as dealers. 



(1. This does not purport to be the price at which you sold the fish ? 

 A. Not as dealers ; no. 



Q. As Pew & Sous ? A. It is the price at which the fish would be soil 

 at if they were sold at the time to a person outside. 



Q. It does not include the packing-out at all ? A. No. 



Q. You afterwards pack the fish and sell them in the market? A. 

 They are packed and all that is taken out. 



Q. I understand that when a vessel comes in the vessel packs off and 

 then settles with the men, and these are the values at which such settle- 

 ments were made ? A. Yes. 



Q. The fish are afterwards placed on the market ; and this settlement 

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