2906 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



By HOD. Mr. Kellogg: 



Q. Is there any difference in the cost of building the same vessel in 

 your port and in the ports of the provinces ? A. Xo. I should think 

 it will cost fully as much, and perhaps more, to build in the provinces 

 as good a ship as we build. It will cost fully as much, at any rate. 



Q. In regard to halibut-fishing by cod vessels. Are those halibut 

 caught on their way to fish for cod, or do thev fish specially for them ! 

 A. No. 



Q. You spoke in regard to salting halibut ; do you often salt them ? 

 A. We do always on the Grand Banks. Our vessels for salt cod always 

 catch more or less halibut, which they put into salt. Oae vessel on one 

 of its trips brought -back one-fourth of its fare as Hitched halibut from 

 the Grand Banks. 



By Mr. Foster : 



Q. Do you say you could not build a vessel of the same kind in the 

 provinces cheaper than at Gloucester ? A. You mean that taking a 

 white-oak vessel you ask me whether they can build it cheaper in the 

 provinces than we can. 



By Hon. Mr. Kellogg : 



Q. Is there any difference in price in building vessels in our ports and 

 there ? A. There are different kinds of vessels. 



Q. Is there any difference in the cost of building vessels ; take the 

 same vessel ? A. Xo ; very little. It is ouly a question of the labor, 

 and that is a very small amount. There is a shipbuilder in Maine who 

 claims he can build them cheaper than they can be built in the prov- 

 inces. 



By Mr. Foster : 



Q. That is quite contrary to what we had supposed to be the case. I 

 would like you to justify the opinion. A. They have not the material 

 in the provinces to build what we call a first-rate ship. They have not 

 any white oak. 



Q. Where do you get your white oak ? A. Our white oak we get 

 from Xew Hampshire and Massachusetts. Our hard pine comes from 

 the Southern States. 



Q. Take such vessels as are built in the provinces, are they built at 

 less expense than those at Gloucester ? A. They are cheaper-built fish- 

 ing-vessels. They use a cheaper-built fishing-vessel in the provinces 

 than we do; but for the same vessel, I have my doubts whether it can 

 be built cheaper in the provinces than in the States. 



By Mr. Davies : 



Q. Do you make that statement with regard to the present time ? Ves- 

 sels built, say last year, and those now building, are they inferior ves- 

 sels to United States fishing- vessels ? A. Yes. 



Q. Do you know what vessels have been built at Shelburne and Yar- 

 mouth during the last two years ? A. I have seen them. 



Q. And you still say they are iqferior vessels? A. Yes. 



Q. You wish to be understood as referring to the vessels themselves ? 

 A. I understand you take what I call a vessel the quality of the 

 wood, and the workmanship put on the vessel. Those vessels I do not 

 consider so good as ours. 



