AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2911 



Q. But your faith has given out ? A. A little, and I ani getting a 

 little old. 



< k >. Did you leave the island in 1873? A. 1873 was my last visit to 

 the island. 



Q. During the time down to 1873 were you called to all other parts of 

 the island on business? A. I was. 



Q. In your business connected with produce and fishing ? A. Yes; 

 in purchasing fish and products. 



Q. Thus you kept yourself informed'! A. I was necessarily compelled 

 to do so on account of my general business. 



Q. During all that time have you seen many American vessels fishing 

 near the bend of the island ? A. I have not. I have occasionally seen 

 American vessels, but of course, from the land, I had not a very good 

 opportunity of seeing many vessels fishing. 



Q. In so far as your observation went, you had not seen many Ameri- 

 can vessels fishing? A. I think not many. 



Q. Why had you not an opportunity of seeing them because they 

 were not there? A. Because I was not there much of the time. 



Q. From what you did observe, what conclusion did you come to 

 that American vessels fished to a great extent within the line of three 

 miles in the bend of the island ? A. I can only say that I saw but few 

 vessels fishing what I considered within the three-mile limit. 



Q. How about the distance from the headlands? Were they nearer 

 the headlands than the bend of the island ? A. Necessarily so, because 

 the headlands project more out into the sea. 



Q. Have you taken any pains to enable yourself to ascertain the 

 distance from the land of vessels ? A. I have only done so in our own 

 harbor, when the distance can be measured from one shore to another. 

 I have made a little observation in regard to the hulls of vessels appear- 

 ing above the shoreline at that distance. 



Q. You have made observations with glasses and with your eyes ? 

 A. Merely incidentally, not with any particular reason or object ; but 

 having vessels out from what we call three miles in Gloucester Harbor, 

 I could see how they appear on the horizon. 



Q. So you have a substantial judgment as to the distance a vessel is 

 off, when you know the size of the vessel ? A. I have had some ex- 

 perience, because I have had the experience of 50 years in vessels, hav- 

 ing had vessels myself, and from general observation. 



Q. Have you had occasion to observe how far out the boats went; I 

 don't mean merely your own boats, but other boats ? A. I have ; it 

 was part of my duty. I was interested iu boats, and when there were 

 indications of a storm or night was coming on, I would take a glass and 

 see how the boats fared, for they might want assistance from the shore. 



Q. And what distance out did you often find the large boats that 

 were owned there and engaged in day fishing? A. I have said before 

 that the fish were sometimes very 'near the shore, and other times if the 

 weather was fine and the mackerel were playing off the coast, they 

 fished at a distance of C, 7, or 8 miles from land. 



Q. Do you know Malpeque very well ? A. Yes. 



Q. What do you think of it as a place to run to? A. I think Mal- 

 peque is a very good harbor after you have entered, but the difficulty 

 is to enter it. It is a place into which, with tine weather and a smooth 

 sea, you can enter with perfect safety. 



Q. But suppose the sea has begun to rise; what then? A. I con- 

 sider it the same as all other harbors that are barred. 



Q. What is the depth of water on the bar at high tide ? A. 1 have 



