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stopping at Eastport, and going over to Grand Manan with Eastport 

 fishermen and seines prepared to fish ? A. I never knew of a case of 

 that kind in my life. 



Q. Have you had some opportunity of knowing whether such could be 

 the case ? A. Yes ; because I am myself engaged in this fishery in 

 winter. I have known them, however, bring some boats from Campo- 

 bello in one or two instances. 



By Mr. Thomson : 



Q. I suppose that you are not an American citizen ! A. I was born 

 in Boston, and I have not been naturalized. 



Q. Then you went when quite young to live at Grand Manan ? A. I 

 think I was about 7 years old when my parents moved there. 



Q. And you have lived there ever since ? A. Yes; I have been, how- 

 ever, in vessels on short trips. 



Q. I suppose that your dealings are chiefly with the Americans ? A. 

 No ; I ran a packet for 4 years between Grand Manan and St. Andrew's; 

 that was up two years ago. 



Q. But your fishing transactions are mostly with Americans ? A. 

 Yes ; we deal mostly with them when selling our fish. 



Q. The people who live on Grand Manan are ordinary white people 

 and British subjects; you call them natives? A. We call them so. 

 They compare favorably, I suppose, with the fishing population gener- 

 ally in New Brunswick. 



Q. You say that all the smoked herring which are caught chiefly go 

 to New York ? A. Yes, and to Boston. Boston, probably, takes the 

 larger share. 



Q. How are they shipped ? A. In our own vessels mostly ; 4 vessels, 

 owned on the island, run constantly to those ports. 



Q. Is there any particular trade between Grand Manan and Eastport, 

 in these fish ? A. Yes ; there is a small trade carried on by the poorer 

 class of fishermen, with their small boats ; they get more money for their 

 fish by taking them to Eastport. 



Q. And the better class of fishermen are engaged in the smoked and 

 frozen herring business, and shipped directly to the States ? A. Many 

 are not shipped by the natives ; Gloucester vessels generally come there 

 and buy them. 



Q. Why do you persist in calling the inhabitants of the island na- 

 tives? A. I will call them either way to suit you. I call them natives 

 because they are born there. 



Q. What other fish are shipped by the inhabitants ? A. Hake are 

 shipped. 



Q. What about pickled fish ? A. There are not very many pickled fish 

 shipped anywhere ; -there are not very many put up. 



Q. I understood vou to say that a quantity was put up? A. Yes; 

 4,000 barrels. 



Q. What are they worth a barrel $3, 1 suppose? A. When you add 

 the cost of barrel and salt, the cost may come pretty well up to that; 

 these fish are generally sold fresh, and what is considered will make a 

 barrel then brings $1.25. 



Q. I am speaking of these herring \vhen put up : 4,000 barrels of 

 pickled herring are put up at Grand Manan ? A. Yes. 



Q. These must be worth at least $3 a barrel ? A. Yes, when you add 

 barrel and salt. 



Q. I am speaking of them barreled as you sell them ? A. Well, $2.75 

 is a large average price for uupickled fish. 



