2924 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Then there are $10,000 worth of herring (used for bait) and mis- 

 cellaneous fish ! A. Yes. 



Q. Then there are $17,000 worth of frozen herring? A. Yes. 



Q. What else is there ! A. The pickled herring. 



Q. These 4,000 barrels would be worth, at the outside, $12,000 ? A. 

 They are only estimated to be worth $1.25 when sold fresh. 



Q. What are the 400,000 boxes of smoked herring worth ! A. 15 

 cents a box would be a large estimate this year ; that is rather above 

 the regular price. 



Q. That makes $156,000 ; and you put down $150,000 as the value of 

 the whole catch of the island ? A. Yes; and I think it is a large esti- 

 mate. 



Q. A very large estimate! A. I did not say very large, but large. 



Q. You are making allowances, are you not ! A. I think that is a 

 large estimate for the season. 



Q. And you undertake to say that the Campobello and Deer Island 

 fishery is worth about the same, though you know nothing about it ! 

 A. I did not say so. 



Q. You said you were not very well acquainted with it. Did you 

 ever ascertain what their catch was ! A. I have been around those 

 islands considerably, and been among their fishermen, and I know that 

 they are not more successful than our fishermen. 



Q. They may have a better catch ! A. I do not think it. I know 

 that the heft of their fishermen come a great deal over to Grand Manan 

 for fish. 



Q. You say that no American vessels come to Grand Manan to fish! 

 A. Very few indeed do so. 



Q. When do they come; in the spring! A. Well, they do not come 

 at any particular season. When they hear of a school of fish about 

 Grand Manan, a few vessels from Lubec and Eastport will run over. 



Q. There is no such thing as a Gloucester fleet that comes down there 

 in the spring or fall ! A. I never saw one. I never knew one vessel to 

 come there from Gloucester and fish inshore. 



Q. Where do they fish there ! A. Off on the Banks, and at different 

 places. 



Q. You have seen them fishing on the Banks ? A. They come there 

 and get bait, and that is the last we see of them. 



Q. They come to the Banks and get bait ! A. They come there and 

 get bait. 



Q. Where! A. From there they go we do not know where. 



Q. Where do they come for bait ! A. To Grand Manan. They do 

 not catch the bait, but buy it. 



Q. They never fish around the island, within three miles of the 

 shore ? A. I have never seen any so fish. 



Q. You have never known this to be done in your life! A. I have 

 never known a Gloucester vessel fish around Grand Manan. 



Q. You never saw American vessels fishing around the island in your 

 life ! A. Within three miles of the shore ; no. 



Q. Although you have lived there since you were 7 years old ! A. 

 Yes. 



Q. How old are you ! A. Forty-one. 



Q. During all this time, 34 years, you have never seen an American 

 vessel fishing within the three-mile limit ! A. I never saw one do so 

 myself. 



Q. I suppose that you never heard of one doing so ! A. I do not 

 know as I ever did that is, a Gloucester vessel. 



