AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2925 



Q. The boats do sometimes, I suppose, come over from the American 

 coast to fish there? A. Yes, but very few; these have always beeu 

 small, opeii boats, with cuddies. 



Q. Then the American people who live along tlie shores about East- 

 port and Lubec, and away on towards the westward, you say, do not 

 send boats over there at all ". A. I did not say that they did not send 

 : them at all. 



(,. But you say very few do so? A. Small boats come over there 

 from different places ; there is not a very large fishing population on 

 that coast. 



Q. Why do they send boats over there, if they have good fishing on 



their own coast f A. I do not know that they have; 1 did not say so. 



Q. Do you think that they have good fishing on their own coast ? A. 



i At certain seasons they may have a considerable herring fishery up that 



coast in the fall. 



! Q. In your judgment, is the herring fishery better on the American 



coast than it is around Grand Mauan ? A. It is not so long. There is a 



body of herring which comes on the sea-coast along from Mount Desert 



i to Cape Cod, to spawn, late in the fall; this is a very heavy body of fish, 



but they do not last a great while. 



Q. They come on the American coast altogether ? A. They come on 

 the American coast. 



Q. In the neighborhood of Eastport ? A. No. 



Q. Is there any good fishing at Eastport, and westward of Lubec ? 

 A. Their fishing, I should think, is very poor there. 



Q. With respect to all kinds of fish ? A. Yes ; from Mount Desert 

 to Eastport. 



Q. In this quarter fishing of all kinds is poor ? A. Yes. 



Q. You only put down 400 people as engaged in the Grand Manan 

 fishery? A. I think that is a large estimate 400 men engaged in fish- 

 ing. 



Q. Has it been your special business to find out how many quintals, 

 barrels, and boxes of fish are taken at Grand Manan ? A. I judge in 

 this regard by former years. I used to trade considerably. 1 bought 

 nearly all the hake every season. 



Q. Are the results of former years a good guide when the fisheries 

 change every year ? A. We can tell that this year 5,000 pounds of 

 sounds have been prepared. 



Q. Do you buy the sounds ? A. No ; but I am acquainted with the 

 men that buy them, and I know how many pounds they buy. 



Q. Where did you get the figures which you have on your paper, 

 from? A. I took them down from my memory. 



Q. Why did you so put them down, if you took them from your mem- 

 ory ? A. I did so to refresh my memory. 



Q. What object could you have in refreshing your memory, if it can 

 enable you to put such figures down without looking at any papers ? 

 A. If you examine the papers, you will find that I have made no mis- 

 takes. 



Q. What did you take them down for ! A. To refresh my memory. 



Q. From what paper ? A. I did not get them from any paper. 



Q. Did you read any of the evidence which has been taken before the 

 Commission^ before you came here ? A. I read several of these depo- 

 sitions. 



Q. Whose ? A. I read that of Walter McLaughlin. 

 Q. Do you know Walter McLaughlin? A. Yes; I am acquainted 

 with him. 



