AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2927 



Q. For the last two years you have stopped ! A. Yes. 



Q. And the only means of information you have as to the fisheries at 

 3t. Andrew's is that you have run a packet between Grand Manan and 

 5t. Andrew's ? A. Yes ; and bought fish while I was running. 



Q. What other places have you knowledge of ? A. What other places 

 do you want a knowledge of? 



Q. I want you to tell me what knowledge you have. I should want 

 FOU to have a knowledge of the whole mainland before you come here 

 to'contradict other witnesses. A. Do these witnesses have a knowledge 

 of the whole mainland ! 



Q. Those who have given evidence have. What other places do you 

 know between St. Andrew's and the headwaters? A. With the whole 

 rf St. Croix River I am more or less acquainted. St. Stephen. 



Q. St. Stephen is not a fishing place at all. A. If you will name 

 any particular place. 



Q. If you have a knowledge of the mainland, you are better able to 

 name them than . A. I have told you I was not very well acquainted 

 with Back Bay. 



Q. Are you acquainted at all with the fisheries at Back Bay ? A. I 

 am acquainted with the fishermen. 



Q. Then you put your opinion as regards the mainland fisheries against 

 the opinion of James R. McLean, do you, or Mr. Lord? A. I have 

 nothing to do with Mr. McLean's opinion whatever. I give my own 

 3piuion. I did not come here to come in conflict with any other man's 

 3pinion, but simply to give my opinion for what it is worth, to the best 

 of my knowledge. 



Q. And you admit that your means of knowledge can't possibly be so 

 stood as those of a man who is engaged in business on the mainland ? 

 A. They are as to Grand Manan. 



Q. I don't mean that. A. Why do you confine yourself to the main- 

 land? 



Q. Because that is part of what you spoke of, and I cannot refer to 

 half a dozen things at once. 1 will come to Grand Manan in a minute. 

 A. I didn't give the mainland so accurately. I said I thought it was so. 



Q. You said a person was mistaken if he would undertake to say 



A. I say that if he would undertake to say it was so large he was mis- 

 taken. 



Q. You put that opinion against men who have been engaged on the 

 mainland ? A. If I had time I could prove it. 



Q. Do you swear that your means of information in reference to the 

 mainland fisheries are as good as the means of information of persons 

 engaged on the mainland in these fisheries ? A. I don't know that I 

 have any business to swear to any such thing at all. I didn't come here 

 for that. 



Q. If any person came here to swear that the fishery around Grand 

 Manan was worth $500,000, or $350,000 more than you put it at, that is 

 beyond all reason according to you? A. Well, I can't figure it out where 

 they get it. 



Q. Do you say it is beyond reason ? A. I should say it was. 



Q. You say it is beyond all reason to put it at $500,000? A. I do. 

 There are 400 men ; and if they catch $1,250 worth of fish a year, each 

 man some men are not very fortunate fishing ; some would catch $500 

 and others would have to catch $2,000 then it is most successful fishing 

 on this coast or anywhere else I know of. 



Q. Any man who swears that, in your judgment, must either be will- 



