AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2933 



Q. Flow many have you caught in the vicinity of Seven Islands? A. 

 I never caught any there. 



Q. In what places in the gulf, so far as you know, are the most mack- 

 <rel caught within three miles of the shore? A. About Cape Breton, 

 as far as my experience goes. 



Q. Near what point? A. From Mabou to Margaree is the best place. 



Q. At what part of the season do they catch these there ? A. I never 

 went there to fish until October. 



Q. How long did you ever stop there? A. Never long at one time. 

 The mackerel strike there; they may be plenty to-day and gone to- 

 morrow. 



Q. That is where you got your 103 barrels in 1864? A. Yes; that 

 tilled me up. 



Q. How many mackerel, on an average, must a Gloucester vessel take 

 ; before there is a profit to the vessel ? I understand that this is a ques- 

 tion that does not admit of a definite answer, but I want to draw out 

 your opinion. A. It is hard to determine. There is some difference in 

 the prices. 



Q. Yes, there is a difference in the price and quality. A. There is also 

 a difference in the bills; but if we don't get 400 barrels we don't calcu- 

 late we are going to do much. 



Q. You were in the Gulf of St. Lawrence most of the time during the 

 Reciprocity Treaty, and you were there a number of years before. I 

 suppose you knew about the cutters and the driving off of the fisher- 

 men that came within 3 miles ? A. Yes. 



Q. You were not there during the license seasons, because you left in 

 1864. Now, what is your view as to the importance of the restriction, 

 against fishing within 3 miles to the United States fishermen ? A. 

 What was that ? 



Q. How much consequence, in your judgment, is the prohibition to 

 fish within the 3-mile limit to the United States fishermen ? A. Well, 

 if I was going myself, I should not consider it anything worth paying 

 for ; but as I am situated now, I think I should be willing to pay, per- 

 haps, 50 cents a ton. 



Q. What is the difference between going yourself and sending your 



captains? A. We have skippers that sometimes go in and try when 



'there is no occasion for it. If they try and are taken, it is just as bad 



as if they caught fish. If I went myself, I would not be running that 



' risk. 



Q. You think you could fish successfully without going within 3 

 miles ? A. I do. " 



Q. Now, your present firm, organized in 1868, has had about how 

 many vessels fishing for mackerel ; did you say ? A. Well, we had 

 some years more and some years less. 



Q. Have you a statement? By the way, I want to know if you 

 brought any books from home ? A. No. 



Q. Any memoranda that you have made up here ? A. I have only 

 memoranda for the last two or three years in the bay. In 1874 we had 

 lour in the bay. 



Q. What did they do ? A. They got 1,847 barrels. 



Q. How many had you on our shore ? A. Five. 



Q. What dicUhey do ? A. They got 3,044. 



Q. Go on to 1875. A. We had one in the bay and got 153 barrels. 

 We had four on our shores, and got 3,784 barrels. In 1876 we had none 

 in the bay. On our shore we had five, and got 5,578. 



Q. Were those seiners ? A. All seiners. 



