AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2939 



these statements bare been made up referring to late years. Can you 

 give me a statement of what your vessels have done in the gulf during 

 the continuance of the Reciprocity Treaty, what the catch was, and 

 what vessels you have had, and a similar statement as to your shores 

 for that period ? A. No, I haven't got it. 



Q. Would you say, as an experienced man, that the catch on your 

 shores was as great during the Reciprocity Treaty as in the bay ? A. 

 No, sir ; because there was not so many vessels went into it. There 

 might be some years. 



Q. Take them through, from '54 to '66, the catch in the bay during 

 those years you acknowledge to be larger ? A. I think it was. I think 

 there were more vessels went there. 



< v >. Could not you give me a statement of the returns of your vessels ; 

 could you make it up and send it to me ? A. Yes ; I could take it from 

 the books at home. 



Q. What was your average catch during Reciprocity ? A. Well, I 

 have not been fishing since 1864. 



s Q. You went before that. What years have you statements for ? A. 

 I have from 1848 down to 1864. In 1854 I made two trips and got 500 

 barrels ; in 1855, about 500 barrels I can't recollect what we took the 

 first trip ; in 1856, 450 barrels ; in 1857, 900 barrels in three trips ; in 

 1858,625 barrels; in 1859*, 470 barrels; in 1860, 325 barrels; in 1861, 

 700 barrels. 



Q. You have omitted some years ? A. No. 



Q. Give me quantity for 1862. A. I gave you 1861 last. In 1862 

 we got 450 barrels; in 1863, 1,140 barrels; in 1864, 1,100 barrels. That 

 was my last trip. That was in the bay. 



Q. On the whole you were a successful fisherman during those years, 

 and, judging from the evidence we have had, you must have made 

 money. Your catches were large. A. Yes, I always had a good 

 catch. 



Q. In 1849, by this (referring to memorandum), you were in your 

 own shore f A. Yes. 



Q. Now, you don't give the result in this paper ? A. No ; I did not 

 put it down. 



<,>. What was it? A. I think between 800 and 900 barrels. That 

 was a good year. I was high liner. I did well. I went on the shore 

 next year, till the 10th of October. I made one trip in 1^50, I think it 

 was. There was mackerel on our shore the first of the year and didn't 

 seem to be any in the fall. I went down late into the bay. 



Q. Then, after 1864, you retired and went into business ? A. Yes. 



Q. Now you say you never fished much in the Bay Chaleurs ? A. 

 Never but twice. 



QJ. You know it of course as a fishing-ground to which the fleet re- 

 sorted at times I- A. Yes, I have heard of fish being caught there. 



Q. Frequently heard ? A. Yes. I knew it was a fishing-ground, but 

 it was never a fishing-ground for me. 



Q. It was not for you personally. Now, yon never resorted to the 

 Seven Islands ? A. I went as far as there, but there didn't seem to be 

 anything. 



Q. Do you know how far off they fish there! A. No, I don't know 

 anything about it. 



Q. You have also heard about that ? A. Yes, as a place bf resort. 



Q. You know that what mackerel are taken there are taken close in ? 

 A. No. I don't know anything of the kind. 



Q. Yon haven't heard it ! A. No. 



