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Q. Not many at Grand Manan ? A. We have had three cargoes from 

 there, as near as I can recollect. 



Q. Three on an average, or altogether ? A. Three altogether. 



Q. In regard to mackerel-fishing on the American coast, how was the 

 nulling this year? A. The vessels did very well South, but when the 

 mackerel came up from the South they could not be found. 



<). Not in Massachusetts Bay ? A. No. 



(,). What intelligence did you get in Gloucester from the gulf when 

 you could not find mackerel in Massachusetts Bay ? A. Reports were 

 in the papers, and posted up, that there were plenty of mackerel down 

 ihere, and that vessels were doing well. 



o. Were you influenced by that at the time? A. Yes. 



(>. You know pretty well what has been the result this year? A. 

 Yes. 



Q. Do yon think it is probable there were signs of mackerel at first f 

 A. I think mackerel were seen there at the early part of the season ; 

 very likely. Some vessels that went into the bay first got some mack- 

 erel. 



Q. Since then ! A. They have done poorly ; they have found scarcely 



Q. With regard to the herring business : with the exception you men- 

 tioned, do you know any Gloucester vessel which has gone down to 

 New Brunswick and caught herring ? A. That is the only cargo I know 

 caught by a Gloucester vessel. 



Q. Were you ever yourself on that coast looking after the herring 

 business ? A. Y"es ; I have been there on an average about two months 

 each winter for four winters. 



Q. At what part of the coast were you ? A. From Bastport to Beaver 

 Harbor mostly ; 1 have been to Grand Manan two or three times. 



Q. And to Deer Island ? A. About Deer Island mostly. 



Q. That is your personal experience ? A. Yes. 



<}. Where there did you ever see any Gloucester vessels catching 

 herring ? A. I don't recollect seeing any. 



Q. Do you know how it is about boats fishing at Eastport and Grand 

 Mauau, and so forth ? A. I have seen a few Eastport boats fishing there 

 among New Brunswick boats. 



Q. Have you ever seen New Brunswick boats on the other side of the 

 line ! A. No ; I don't think so. We do not catch many herring on the 

 other side ; some are caught round Eastport ; not very many. 



Q. They do not mind the boundary line much there? A. I don't 

 think they do. 



Q. Would the herring business of Gloucester be considered as one 

 of catching or buying herring? A. Of buying herring; we don't pre- 

 tend to catch any. 



Q. In the common speech among Gloucester merchants, dealers, and 

 fishermen, if anybody spoke of the herring fleet off Gloucester, what 

 would be understood by it ? A. Those that go down to purchase her- 

 ring. 



Q. Is there anything else to which they could allude ? A. No. 



< v >. How many American vessels do you suppose you have s'een at one 

 ,tiine on the north shore of Grand Manan engaged in the purchase of 

 bait? A. In the winter of 1875-'7G, I saw CO vessels at one time. 



< v >. Suppose the supply of salt- mackerel obtained in the bay. which is 



I'tit into our market, should cease, what do you think would be the 



r on the American people, and especially on the people of Glon- 



ter .' A. I don't know that I can give you much of an idea about 



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