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that. I suppose it would affect the market for awhile, but not a great 

 while, I should suppose. 



Q. Would it affect it very severely even for a while ? A. Xo; I should 

 not say it would. 



Q. Suppose the American market should lose the fish taken by Amer- 

 ican vessels within three miles of the Canadian coasts, would it have a 

 sensible effect on the American market ? A. I doii't think it would. 



By Mr. Thomson : 



Q. In regard to the herring fishing ; there is a fleet which goes down 

 in the neighborhood of Grand Manan and Eastport, from Gloucester, 

 every year, to get bait herring is there not? A. To buy bait; yes. 



Q. Do they go down with appliances to fish ? A. Not except in the 

 one case I have mentioned. 



Q. One of your vessels went down and caught a cargo ? A. Yes. 



Q. Where did she fish? A. In St. Andrew's Bay she caught nearly 

 the whole of them. 



Q. In what year was it? A. In the winter of'1873-'74. 



Q. Did she get a full cargo? A. Yes; it was a small vessel. 



Q. What time do you send your vessels down ? A. About 20th No- 

 vember. 



Q. Do you send them down in the spring, too ? A. Not to buy to 

 freeze for the market. 



Q. Do you not send them down to get bait ? A. Yes. 



Q. They want the bait for fishing there ? A. On Western Banks 

 usually. 



Q. Where do they get the bait when they go down ? A. I don't know 

 in the spring. I have never been there in the spring and cannot tell 

 personally, but somewhere on that coast. 



Q. Do they go down in the spring with fishing appliances? A. Not 

 that I know of; I never saw any. 



Q. Do you send any of your own vessels ? A. Yes. 



Q. You send them down entirely without fishing appliances? A. We 

 don't put any on board. 



Q. Are you aware that your captains get bait at either Grand Mauau 

 or the north shore ? A. In that vicinity. 



Q. The practice of your men is to go down and give notice to the 

 fishermen that they want bait, and the fishermen will get it for them? 

 A. As soon as vessels go in fishermen come on board and see if they 

 want bait. 



Q. They then make a bargain? A. Yes. 



Q. And the fishermen go and get bait for them ? A. Yes. 



Q. Are the persons who go on board American citizens or Britisb 

 subjects ? A. I have seen them go on board from Eastport. and we 

 suppose they are American citizens there. 



Q. They are American citizens who go over and get bait in British 

 waters ? A. I think that most of the herring are caught in Britisb 

 waters. 



Q. I think we have had some evidence that of late years Gloucester 

 vessels have gone down and employed Americans to get bait for them, is 

 that so ? A. I don't think they have employed Americans. 1 could not 

 say. 



Q. Is it not well known that the Gloucester fleet has gone down iu 

 spring and fall, in the fall for frozen herring, and iu the spring for the 

 purpose of getting bait? A. Yes. 



Q. You have mentioned that you saw 60 vessels at one time, whert 



