2948 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. They may have taken the whole catch, for anything yon know, 

 within the 3 mile limit ? A. I never beard them say that they had taken 

 them inshore. They may have done so. 



Q. Did .you ever hear from them that they did not take them in- 

 shore f A. Xo. 



Q. Then, for anything you know, they might all have been taken 

 within the 3 mile limit or all outside ? A. Yes. 



Q. Some of the years were profitable ? A. I think two or three years 

 we might have done very fairly, as far as I can recollect. 



Q. Since 1870 how many vessels have you had in the bay ? A. From 

 one to three, except last .year, when we had not any. 



Q. Had you made money in the gulf fishing up to 1870 ? A. No; I 

 do not think we had. 



Q. Had you lost money ? A. I could not say for certain. I don't 

 think we made any ; but I could not say for certain we lost any. I don't 

 think it was profitable. 



Q. You had not lost any money up to that time ? A. I could not say 

 we had. 



Q. At all events, notwithstanding the character of that fishing 

 good or bad you sent to the gulf after 1870 every year until last year? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. Have you lost money since 1870 ? A. Yes ; we have. 



Q. A large sum ? A. No; not very large. 



Q. How much have you lost ? A. I could not say. I have not the 

 figures, and have not examined the books. 



Q. Cannot you tell how much you have lost? A. I cannot tell 

 you. 



Q. You sold supplies to the vessels ? A. Yes. 



Q. You charged a profit on all the supplies you put on board your 

 vessels ? A. Yes. 



Q. Putting that business and the fishing business together, do you 

 say you have lost money since 1870 ? A. We have on bay fishing. 



Q. Taking the profit on outfit on the fish after they are repacked and 

 in other ways, have you lost money? A. We have made a shrink- 

 age. 



Q. You sell the fish, or take them at a price ? A. We sell them for 

 the benefit of the voyage. 



Q. You allow the men so much for their share? A. We don't buy 

 mackerel ourselves. We sell them to the buyers and speculators there. 



Q. You don't speculate at all yourselves ? A. Not in mackerel. 



Q. Do you in other fish ? A. Yes; in codfish. 



Q. What do you do with the vessels which are in the gulf in summer 

 and early fall ? A. They go cod fishing in spring, or to the South for 

 mackerel; cod-fi.shing, chiefly. 



Q. Then you want the buy fishery for the purpose of filling up their 

 time * A. We send them there to catch some fish if they can. 



Q. Why do you keep them there every year ? A. We don't keep 

 many there ; we used to have five ; we have ouly one there now. 



Q. Why do you keep one in the bay? A. In the hope it will do 

 better. 



Q. Aie you serious in saying you don't think the gulf inshore fishery 

 is worth anything ? A. Yes. 



Q. Suppose the inshore fishery was taken away from you, and the 

 rest of the gulf fishing was left to you, and the fishing at the Magdalen 

 Islands, would it do you any injury? A. I think not. 



Q. Practica ly it is of no value to you ? A. I think not. 



