3308 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



sel this is the universal custom of American vessels. All the labor 

 and profits of the taking is with the British subjects. There was over 

 50 sail of American vessels there, and some got no herring at all ; and 

 no vessel while I was there got fully loaded. Both the herring and 

 mackerel fisheries are very uncertain. 



In the Newfoundland herring fishery I have always bought and paid 

 for the herring in cash. The Newfoundland Customs Officers oblige 

 American vessels to pay duties on barrels in which the herring are 

 packed, although the barrels are never landed or leave the vessels, but 

 are carried down there and brought away without touching the shore. 

 They also charge light dues, averaging 25 dollars to each American ves- 

 sel ; in fact, there are no fees neglected. The American cod and hali- 

 but fishery is purely a deep-sea fishery. The few American vessels that 

 go into the Gulf of St. Lawrence for codfish, take them 12 to 15 miles 

 from the shore, or on Banks Bradley or Orphan. The throwing over- 

 board of mackerel cleanings never injured the mackerel or fish. I never 

 heard of such a thing. 



CHAELES LEE. 



I, John F. Peoples, having been on this trip, this last two months, to 

 the Gulf of St. Lawrence, hereby on oath declare that the statement is 

 true in every particular. 



JOHN F. PEEPLES. 



COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS. 



COUNTY OF ESSEX, ss. GLOUCESTER, Aug. 28, 1877. 



Then personally appeared the above named Charles Lee and John F. 

 Peeples, and made oath that all the statements subscribed to by said Lee 

 are true to the best of their knowledge and belief. 



Before me. 

 (L. S.) DAVID W. LOW. 



Notary Public. 

 No. 239. 







I, Joseph McPhee, of Gloucester, in the State of Massachusetts, ship 

 carpenter, on oath, depose and say, that I was born in Prince Edward 

 Island ; that in the year 1860 I was with my brother Capt. Daniel 

 McPhee (now deceased) in sch. Daniel McPhee, of Gloucester, that said 

 schooner fitted at the firm of Sinclair and Low, that on our first trip to 

 the Gulf of St. Lawrence in the summer of 1860, we took dories, that we 

 tried for mackerel at Seven Island's, found none, got a few oft' Bartlett's 

 Cove, tried off Mount Louis and Madeline River and went home iu 

 September with sixteen or seventeen barrels of mackerel. That Joseph 

 Campbell was not in said schooner the trip above mentioned, nor was 

 he one of the crew the fall trip of said schooner in which we caught 

 most of our trip of 125 bbls. of mackerel off Magdalen Islands, between 

 10 and 15 miles south east from Entry Island. Some were caught off 

 Malpeque and some off Margaree. That of said catch less than one- 

 tenth of them were caught within three miles from the shore; that we 

 took no dories on our second trip and did not go to the Seven Islands. 



JOSEPH McPHEE. 



UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ) 



COMMONWEATH OF MASSACHUSETTS, 

 COUNTY OF ESSEX, s. s., CITY OF GLOUCESTER. > 



Personally appeared before me, this twenty-first day of September, 

 A. D. 1877, the above-named Joseph McPhee, to me well known, and 



