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or two, or even three, and make up a thorough, well-digested 

 report, and forward it to the proper office in the Govern- 

 ment. It seems to me that is much more preferable. 



Dr. Mason — I think, with Dr. Miller, that the motion of 

 Mr. Harris is a good one. We can refer this matter to a 

 committee that can consider it briefly, and they will prob- 

 ably come to the conclusion that the best thing that can be 

 done is to give the Board of Directors time ; they can so 

 recommend it to us, and then we can request the Board of 

 Directors to do this work ; then they have some authority ; 

 when they report to the Government they will say, " At the 

 request of the Association, we, the Board of Directors of 

 our Association," do so and so. I would be in favor of re- 

 ferring to the committee at the present time, and then let- 

 ting it go into the hands of the Board of Directors. 



Mr. Taylor — Am I to understand the motion is with- 

 drawn as made by Mr. Harris, and that the amendment is 

 before the house ? 



Mr. Harris — I rise to a point of order. We are all out of 

 order at the present time, as the motion has not been stated ; 

 the gentleman who seconded my motion did not consent to 

 its withdrawal, therefore the original motion is before the 

 house. 



Mr. Abbott — I rose to say I did not give my consent. 



C. P. Dadant — As a member of the Board of Directors 

 I know something about the difficulties encountered in hav- 

 ing an understanding by correspondence. The directors 

 present can have a talk and achieve a great deal more 

 among themselves while they are present face to face than 

 they can when they have to write. The letters all have to 

 goto the chairman, and resolutions have to be proposed. 

 For that reason I am very much in favor of a committee 

 being appointed, whether it is of the Board or out of the 

 Board, and do what we can here. One of the directors will 

 make a proposition ; that has to go to the chairman, then 

 he has to send that proposition to each of the members ; 

 then the members make additions or corrections, and that 

 takes a great deal of time. It is not satisfactory at best. 

 We can not have a meeting anywhere else. We each go 

 home, living in a different State very often, and it is very 

 difficult to carry on business with the Board. Therefore, I 

 would be in favor of doing all the business we can do right 

 herein the convention. 



W. F. Marks — There are certain phases of this question 

 that can be settled here to-day. This committee could be 

 appointed to take up this question of statistics, and it seems 

 to me that is the proper way to do it. I am not in the least 

 in favor of referring this matter to the Board of Directors. 

 The resolution can be passed here to-day asking the Depart- 

 ment of Agriculture that they be requested to take up this 

 matter of statistics and furnish us with statistics in regard 

 to the apicultural industry. I see no reason why it should 

 be referred to the Board of Directors. 



Prof. Benton— 1 think Mr. Marks has misunderstood 

 the scope of the proposed recommendations; they were to 

 be more general, not merely one particular subject, but to 

 cover the field of what connection there ought to be be- 

 tween the Governmental work and the work of this Asso- 

 ciation, and how they could assist each other. The whole 

 general subject, with a series of recomraendtaions, and as 

 to whether it would be wise to settle that here or not, it 

 seems to me it would be rather advisable to have the com- 

 mittee, and the committee to suggest that the Directors 

 should take it up in more general manner. 



Dr. Miller— I am very ready to admit that there would 

 be that advantage in having the Board of Directors to act, 

 and I am very sure that the Board, as individuals, will 

 readily fall into Mr. Dadant's thought, and be glad to have 

 some one else do the work ; but it has occurred to me that 

 possibly we might have both of these things done and have 

 a committee here consisting of the Directors who are here, 

 then have that committee refer the thing to the whole 

 Board. It does not come, perhaps, from one of the Directors 

 with very good grace to have such a thing proposed, and 

 yet we must not be too modest. lam rather of the opinion 

 that a good plan would be to have a committee now consist- 

 ing of the members of the Board who are here, and let that 

 committee refer the matter to the whole Board. 



Mr. Taylor— Mr. President, as it strikes me, it would 

 be manifestly absurd — 



L. Booth — I rise to a point of order. I have not heard 

 any question stated by the chair ; I don't know what is be- 

 fore the house. 



Mr. Taylor — I am going to make a motion. Mr. Presi- 

 dent, I was about to say that it would be manifestly absurd 

 to refer this to a committee and expect that committee to 

 make a report that would be worth anything during the 



life of this convention. This is a matter that would require 

 some thought; after the thought is matured it would re- 

 quire some time in order to put the thought in shape and 

 make it presentable. If we are going to deal with this mat- 

 ter intelligenth', we ought to do it in such a way that we 

 shall get a result that is intelligent. Now, the last sug- 

 gestion of Dr. Miller, it seems to me, is a very good one, 

 and I move to amend the original motion by substituting 

 this, " That the question be referred to a committee to be 

 composed of the members of the Board of Directors here 

 present; that they consider the question while they are 

 together, and that after this convention is adjourned they 

 refer it further to the other members of the Board of Direc- 

 tors, and that they make a final report and have it sub- 

 mitted to the Government." 



Dr. Mason — Mr. Taylor moves to amend by substitution. 

 Is that proper ? 



Mr. Taylor — Certainly. 



Mr. Harris — I rise to a point of order. There is noth- 

 ing here for discussion, and I, as the mover of the original 

 motion, would like to talk on the motion when properly put 

 by the chair. 



Dr. Mason — If that is proper, that we can have such a 

 motion to amend by substituting, I want still to say 

 that I believe the best thing we can do is to put this before 

 a committee composed of those not directors, and I believe 

 we have the ability to mature enough of a plan to be sub- 

 mitted to this convention so that we can get it right before 

 the Directors, and they before the Government, and make 

 it count. 



* Dr. Miller— I rise to a point of order. I believe Mr. 

 Harris is right. There is nothing before the house at all ; 

 the President has not stated the motion. 



Pres. Hutchinson — 1 don't know that I can remember it. 



Dr. Miller — The stenographer will read it, and then you 

 ought to repeat it. 



Dr. Mason — That is pretty small, but you are a small 

 man. 



The stenographer read the motion, after which the 

 president stated it. 



Mr. Harris — The object of this motion was this, that to 

 expedite business, and, as one of the gentlemen here has 

 said, not to go into the correspondence and delay this mat- 

 ter from time to time, let this committee be appointed if 

 necessary ; then they make suggestions ; let it go to the 

 Directors thereafter on the suggestions that this committee 

 may make, then you will get down to proper business in 

 such a way that you will work in an intelligent manner, 

 and know just what the desire of this convention is. 



The President put the motion, which, on a vote having 

 been taken, was declared carried. 



Pres. Hutchinson — I will appoint the committee after 

 dinner. 



A PROPAG.ANDA FOR HONEY. 



Mr. York — I want to speak on that big word Dr. Miller 

 used, "propaganda." 



Mr. Taylor — You are out of order. 



Pres. Hutchinson — I think we can hear from Mr. York. 



Mr. York — I wanted to go back to the subject before 

 the convention, " The most hopeful field for the Associa- 

 tion." Dr. Miller suggested that one of his views was a 

 propaganda for advertising honey. A little while ago I 

 noticed Mr. Abbott was reading a newspaper; perhaps he 

 was trying to look up the meaning of that word. 



Mr. Abbott — That means the propagandering among 

 the geese ! 



Mr. York — I suppose it is a sort of scheme, or system, for 

 advertising honey, and I believe the Association can do a 

 good deal along that line. As some of you possibly know, 

 I am interested in getting people to eat more honey. I think 

 most people here to-day would like to have the demand for 

 honey developed so that they can sell their honey at a better 

 price. I can hardly agree with Mr. Hutchinson in his 

 paper, where he said he thought honey would not sell for 

 any higher price than at the present. I believe when peo- 

 ple come to understand the real value of honey as a daily 

 article of food that its price is going to be higher, because 

 there is not enough to-day to supply the demand at the 

 present. For several years I have been endeavoring to get 

 more people to eat pure honey, and I think the Association, 

 if it had a larger membership, could do a great deal along 

 that line, and I believe that the first most hopeful field is 

 that of increasing the membership of the Association. I 

 believe if we had SOOO or 10,000 members, and would send a 

 recommendation to Mr. Benton, in Washington, backed up 

 by that number of members, it would have a great deal 



