24 The Frederick Gerring, Jr. 



of the sea and 30 or 40 barrels of mackerel went over. His officer 

 then ran forward and told him to ease up, that he was washing 

 the fish off the deck. 



Q. How far do you judge you were to the southward of the 

 Gull Ledge, the wash rock you spoke of, at the time you were 

 seized, would you be 3 miles ? A. Yes, anyone would think by the 

 way the vessels were fishing that we were three miles and a half. 



Q. At the time of the seizure how was your vessel heading? 

 A. She was heading S. E. or E_. 



Q. Was there much wind at the time ? A. No, there was not 

 a great deal ; it was very light. 



Q. Do you remember anything else that you want to say? 

 A. No, that is all. 



Cross-examined by Mr. Ritchie: 



Q. What day of the month was it that you arrived off of 

 White Island? A. It was the 25th of May. 



Q. Did you come to anchor there ? A. No sir. 



Q. How long did you remain there? A. Well, I should think 

 from the time we went out in our boat until we were taken would 

 be about two hours. 



Q. What time in the afternoon did Captain Knowlton come 

 on board your vessel? A. I think it was between 5 and 6 o'clock, 

 but I don't know the exact time. 



Q. Now, you say that you yourself heard someone on the 

 Vigilatit say that she was jogging along the line? A. Yes, sir. 



Q. Could you tell me who it was that said that? A. No, I 

 could not. 



Q. How long was it after you arrived there that you heard 

 that. A. It was just as we got near enough to hear it; just as we 

 arrived. 



Q. Was it after that or before that you lay to? A. They 

 call it laying to when you are hoisting out the fish after you catch 

 them. 



Q. But after you arrived there you lay to? A. We were sail- 

 ing right along going east and the cutter was jogging to the west. 

 We only hauled our jibs after we took the fish; we were fishing 

 under full sail. 



Q. Which way were you going? A. We were working to the 

 eastward. 



