50 The Frederick Gerring, Jr. 



Q. Tell us what conversation you had in regard to the ques- 

 tion of towing his log? A. He asked me whether I would have any 

 objections to my officer running in with the steamer to Liscombe 

 Light to see what distance it was. I said that I would not do that 

 because Liscombe Light had nothing to do with the case. He would 

 have to navigate pretty carefully to get in there in a direct course 

 over the ledges. That was all that was said about the log. 



Q. Was anything said about towing the log, or measuring 

 the distance to Gull Ledge? A. I don't think there was. I don't 

 remember anything of that kind being said. 



Q. Did the captain of the Gerring ask you to tow any log 

 to Gull Ledge? A. No. 



O. Did the captain of the Gerring ask you to allow him to 

 tow his log to Liscombe Light? A. Not to my recollection; I 

 don't remember any such thing whatever, 



O. Did you give orders that the captain of the Gerring was 

 not to be allowed to tow his log behind him going to Liscombe 

 Light? A. No, I did not. 



Q. Did the captain of the Gerring ask you to speak to the 

 captain of the Vigilant in regard to his position? A. I don't 

 remember of it. I don't think he did. 



Q. Will you tell us what conversation you had with the cap- 

 tain of the Gerring in regard to his position? A. We did not 

 have very much. I said "you are too close to this ledge," and he 

 said if it was a matter of ledges there were lots of them fishing 

 inside of Sambro on Sunday. I was in a position to know different- 

 ly from that. 



Q. When you were speaking of the ledge you referred to Gull 

 Ledge? A. Yes. 



Q. Did the captain of the Gerring claim or say that he was 

 more than three miles from Gull Ledge? A. He did not. 



Q. Did you at any time on that day, or at any other time tell 

 the captain of the Gerring that at the time of the seizure the 

 tide was running S. W. ? A. No, I did not. 



Q. Did you take soundings at the place where the Gerring 

 was taking her fish on board? A. Yes. 



Q. What depth of water was there there? A. There were 

 28 fathom. 



