72 The Frederick Gerring, Jr. 



Q. From the time the net is set until it is pursed up would 

 not be more than 10 minutes? A. It would be 10 or 15 minutes. 



Q. So that at the time the fish were in the net, and at the time 

 the Gerring run down to secure the fish, they were outside the 

 three-mile limit at that time? A. They were. 



Wednesday, August 6th [5th], 1896. 



The Court resumed at 11 a. m. 



Mr. Ritchie tendered in evidence the ship's papers (marked 

 J. M. D. "a") and the chart (marked J. M. D. "b"). 



CAPT. OSPREY C. V. SPAIN, called and sworn. 



Examined by Mr. Ritchie: 



Q. You are commander of the fishery protection service of 

 Canada? A. Yes. 



Q. You have been so for how many years? A. I have been 

 so for 5 years. 



Q. Do you know what is called Gull Ledge off the coast of 

 Nova Scotia, near Liscombe? A. Yes, I know it well. 



Q. Have you visited that vicinity recently? A. Yes, I have 

 been there three times within the last month. 



Q. How did you visit it? A. I visited it in the Dominion 

 cruiser Acadia. 



Q. Did you make any measurements on the water near that 

 place? A. I did. 



Q. When did you do so? A. I did so on the first occasion 

 we were there ; I think it was in the middle of July. 



Q. What measurements did you make there on the water at 

 that time? A. We got the ship into bearings with Big White 

 Island, and Liscombe Light. 



Q. Give me the bearings of the place into which you got your 

 vessel? A. Liscombe Light bore N. E. >4 N. and the northern 

 point of Big White Island bore W. N. W. 



