74 The Frederick Gerring, Jr. 



Q. Look at the chart J. M. D. "b," and tell us what you say 

 in regard to the correctness of the chart in the vicinity of Gull 

 Ledge and Liscom'be. A. As far as I know it is absolutely cor- 

 rect. This is the chart we invariably use when running up and 

 down the coast, and I have always found it correct in every way. 

 It is the Admiralty chart. I have been using it personally for live 

 seasons. 



Q. Have you had occasion to know that it is correct in this 

 particular vicinity by passing there? A. I know that the sound- 

 ings in that vicinity are perfectly correct. 



Q. How do you know that? A. I know because we have 

 sounded on it. 



Q. In using a chart like that do you have an opportunity of 

 verifying its correctness? A. Yes, continually. I have done that 

 and have found this chart quite correct. 



Q. Have you ever been on this place called Gull Ledge? A. 

 Yes, I have been there twice. I was there the day before yester- 

 day, and the Saturday before that. 



Q. What does this Gull Ledge consist of? A. It consists of 

 the islands about thirty foot apart, — the one lying inside of the 

 other. I landed on the inner island, which is the largest. 



Q. Give us an idea of the size of the inner island? A. Speak- 

 ing approximately it is larger than George's Island in this harbor, 

 but not as high. The area is larger. 



Q. Did you make any measurements of the island? A. Yes, 

 it was 400 yards long, 160 yards wide, and 42 feet high. 



Q. How did you measure the length and breadth of it and 

 the height? A. We measured the height of the island with a 

 tape measure. 



Q. Would that give you the exact height above water? A. 

 We made the highest point from the water line, 52 feet, but I 

 took the height afterwards with a sextant, and found that it was 

 only 42 feet. 



Q. Did anyone assist you in making the measurement of 

 the height? A. Yes, my second officer, Mr. Milne. 



Q. Give us a description of the island as to the nature of it? 

 A. We landed on the inner island, and I found a fisherman's 

 shanty there with a stove in it, and a large number of lobster traps. 

 There was a fair amount of vegetation on the island. There was 



