Wan that testimonial ? A. No. It was quite a while ago, I could not 

 exactly say. 



Q. About how many years ago ? A. That I could not say. It was 

 over three years ago. 



Q. More than three years ago? A. Yes. 



Q. Where were you living then, do you remember? A. I was liv- 

 ing in Oakland. 



Q. Did you write it out for him, or did he write it out for you ? 

 A. I wrote it out. 



Q. At his request ? A. I didn't write it, my wife wrote it out at 

 my instigation." 



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