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to have arisen from " a change in its manner of procuring 

 subsistence, or in the conditions of its native country." 



Homo. Mr. Darwin has a remarkable capacity for making 

 suppositions, my Lord, but his present supposition is 

 neither ingenuous nor ingenious. It is not ingenuous, for 

 it is manifestly made for the purpose of helping him out of 

 a difficulty, the existence of which he had better have 

 frankly acknowledged. And it is not ingenious. I could 

 myself have easily helped him to a better. Your Lordship 

 will at once perceive that a change in the mode of this 

 creature's procuring subsistence must have arisen from a 

 change in the conditions of its native country. Now 

 Africa, according to Mr. Darwin, was the native country 

 of man's progenitors. But we know that no change of the 

 kind supposed has taken place in Africa, for the forests of 

 that country abound in monkeys to the present day. 



Lord C. But may there not have been an era during 

 which Africa ceased to grow forests ? 



Homo. There cannot have been such an era, my Lord, 

 else, on Mr. Darwin's principles, all its monkey tribes must 

 either have perished, or been changed either into quadru- 

 peds or into men. 



Darwin. My Lord, "Baboons frequent hilly and rocky 

 districts, and only from necessity climb up high trees ; and 

 they have acquired almost the gait of a dog." (Vol. i. p. 

 141.) 



Homo. It is not with tailless baboons that we are at 

 present concerned, my Lord, but with a tailed ape, "arboreal 

 in its habits." Will Mr. Darwin kindly keep to the point ? 

 As to baboons having " acquired almost the gait of a dog," 

 can he prove that they ever had any other gait ? 



Darwin. " Man," my Lord, " could not have attained his 

 present dominant posi ion in the world without the use of 



