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large number of physicians in favor of raw milk. We have got to 

 have something of that kind. 



THE CHAIRMAN: It would be very difficult for the Health De- 

 partment to say that no physician should have raw milk. If the 

 majority of those feeding infants think that raw milk is preferable 

 to heated milk, all we can do then is to say that it must be pure 

 and safe as possible. 



MR. CAMPBELL: That word "reasonable/' Mr. Chairman, is 

 something or nothing. You can't tell what it means. Now, it has 

 been plainly demonstrated here that even in the production of cer- 

 tified milk, just as this gentleman, Dr. Green, has said, every time 

 you get your herd submitted to the tuberculin test, there are al- 

 ways a few animals that are found to respond, and yet you have 

 been taking that milk and you have been distributing it under the 

 words "certified." Now, what are you going to do with that? 

 Isn't this the safe thing? There has not been a man on this plat- 

 form, either yesterday or to-day, who has not recommended the 

 pasteurization of milk, and if it is good for one milk, it is good for 

 all. There isn't a mother who does not heat the milk when she 

 feeds it to her baby, and I say that milk to-day, from the evidence 

 that has been produced here, if it is properly and scientifically 

 pasteurized, is safer than any mother can cook it in her own home. 

 This word "reasonable" should not be left in there. It does not 

 mean anything. You could say that there are a number of kinds 

 of milk that are reasonably safe. What we want are facts now, 

 and not opinions. 



A VOICE: Will you please read the resolution now? 



(The resolution was again read.) 



DR. GREEN: I move an amendment to the resolution, by strik- 

 ing out the words "in a raw state." 



(The motion was seconded.) 



THE CHAIRMAN: The amendment is now open to discussion. 



DR. GREEN: The discussion, Mr. Chairman, is just this: That 

 that phrase "in a raw state" states the condition in which it is to 

 be fed to children, and people will think they may give this milk 

 to the children. If the phrase "in a raw state" were left out of 

 that, they would not give it to their children so much in a raw 

 state. 



DR. HAMILL: I would like to ask the gentleman who just spoke 

 why certified milk is not "reasonably safe," and I would like to 

 have him define what he means by "reasonably safe." It seems to 

 me that milk which is safeguarded to the extent which certified 

 milk is safeguarded, and milk that experience has shown to be as 



