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tested and found re-acted on the guinea pigs, was from the dairy of the 

 J. R. White Company. 



A. That was one of the dairy companies. The J. R. White Com- 

 pany were dealers in high grade cattle, and their cattle were sold. They 

 were very careful about their cattle. All their calves which were very 

 precious to them and very valuable, were being treated by killed cultures. 

 All tuberculins by themselves. No tuberculins near immunes in order 

 to protect them against tuberculins. But they are willing to take tuber- 

 culins and sell the milk to Rochester, and that was the only recourse we 

 had then. Another lot of cattle came along that were tubercular, and we 

 could not do anything after that. 



Q. You found that milk that was complained of here in the Big 

 Elm Dairy Company came from the J. R. White Company? 



A. Yes. 



Q. And you requested them to make the test ? 



A. We had already. 



Q. They were excluded until the test was made? 



A. Such a test had already been made. There was a controversy 

 on that side. 



Q. What was the controversy? 



A. Owen was my superior. I never had any trouble with my su- 

 perior until now I am ready to resign. 



Q. I do not understand yet how you were prevented from making 

 this test. 



A. The Big Elm Company stopped us in this way. They had five 

 hundred producers, just as the City Dairy Company, the rottenest com- 

 pany that sold milk to Rochester. They were filthy beyond measure 

 the Brighton Place Dairy Company taking milk from vast numbers of 

 tuberculous cattle. We wanted to go in and test the herds, instead of 

 making tests from finished producers of one of these big companies who 

 massed the milk, and produce the burden of proof on the large companies. 



Q. You had no authority to do that? 



A. No, sir. 



Q. You had authority to test the herds ? 



A. We did of all the small dealers, testing them first, realizing that 

 just as soon as we got up against the big companies we would run against 

 a stone wall, as we did. 



Q. What was there to prevent your testing the herds of the Big 



Elm Company? 



A. Simply because we were at the end of our rope. At this time 

 we had two and a half milk inspectors to do this work. We could not 

 in the nature of things. We had to plan our work so that when we had 



