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Q. Do the inspectors take samples of the milk before it is pas- 

 teurized ? 



A. Before its pasteurization and after pasteurization; and then on 

 occasions they take it at other steps in addition. 



Q. Their object is to determine the efficiency of the process? 



A. The ordinance requires that the apparatus used destroy 99% 

 of all the bacteria, and all the pathogenic bacteria. 



Q. Are you familiar, Doctor, with the opinion of other experts in 

 the United States and Canada, men who are making a profession of public 

 health work, on this same subject? 



A. I am. 



Q. You said you were a member of the Commission on Milk 

 Standards, New York City. Does that Commission in your opinion con- 

 tain men who are qualified to pass expert judgment on such a subject 

 as this? 



A. It does; I think so. Its personnel was very carefully selected. 

 I think it is a very well balanced Commission. 



Q. How many members are there of that Commission? 



A. The membership changes; slightly less than 20. 



Q. Were you the first chairman of that Commission ? 



A. I was. 



Q. Do you know whether the Commission of 20 men are unanimous 

 in their opinion as to the desirability of the adoption of pasteurization 

 by cities and towns? 



A. I do. The question has been voted on a half dozen times in 

 one way or another since 1911. There is absolute unanimity of opinion 

 as to the desirability of pasteurizing the general milk supply of the Com- 

 munity. The vote on that question is always unanimous. We have up 

 every year, the question of the advisability of obligatory pasteurization 

 at all times of certified milk, and on that question we generally vote about 

 half and half. On the matter of pasteurizing the general milk supply 

 the vote is always unanimous and has been since about 1912. 



Q. Do you consider that the personnel of that Commission justifies 

 the conclusion that they are as well qualified as any commission that 

 could be selected to pass on such a question as the adoption of pasteuriza- 

 tion by municipalities ? 



A. My opinion is that it is the best opinion available in America. 



Q. You don't think you could get any better opinion as to whether 

 pasteurization should be adopted? 



A. My judgment is that it is the best that can be had anywhere for 

 that matter I said "America." 



Q. Do you know whether the findings of that Commission have 

 been adopted anywhere? 



