MILK SURVEY OF THE CITY OF ROCHESTER 217 



Q. There are various cities in this country about the size of Roch- 

 ester or larger, that require that all milk should be pasteurized and sold 

 as pasteurized milk? 



A. Yes, sir. There are certain provisions in the State Milk Law of 

 New York State which provide for it. 



Q. That is required as to the supply of the City of New York? 



A. I don't know. 



Q. Philadelphia, how about that ? 



A. I don't know. I don't know about the pasteurization require- 

 ments relating to any city at the present time. 



Q. Has there ever been agitation in the City of Rochester that you 

 have known 'of, to get such a requirement in force? 



A. Oh, yes. The milk ordinance of the City of Rochester is the 

 milk statute of the state, the Statute of the State Department of Health, 

 and that is complied with. Of course you know the State Department 

 of Health has a splendid statute under which it graded milk, i. e., Grade 

 "A" for Grade "A" people who had Grade "A" pocketbooks; Grade "B" 

 for Grade "B" people who had Grade "B" pocketboks; Grade "C" for 

 Grade "C" people with Grade "C" pocketbooks. That is a fine ordinance. 

 If you had Grade "A" water that would be Grade "A" water absolutely 

 protected from typhoid, Grade "B" would be some other kind of water. 

 Grade "B" water would be the water now fed to a lot of residents in the 

 neighborhood of Manitou. I just saw a woman who had typhoid as a 

 result of drinking the water down there. We should have a comparison 

 betwen the milk graded in that way as in the case of water. A, B, C 

 grades indicate degrees of wholesomeness. It indicates the degree of care 

 which the milk has been put through and the degrees of care with which 

 it has been handled. 



Q. How do you feel yourself about the sale of raw and pasteurized 

 milk? 



A. I am in favor of the sale of raw milk until such time as suffi- 

 cient sanitary safeguards are thrown around milk to make it safe for pas- 

 teurization. I have never been in favor of pasteurizing all kinds of milk 

 as in the pasteurization craze which passed over Rochester. 



Q. If pasteurization does do something towards rendering milk 

 wholesome for human consumption, isn't it a mistake to delay pasteuriza- 

 tion of the milk ? 



A. I don't think so. 



Q. You advocate continuing sale of raw milk, which may contain 

 those dangerous organisms which may be destroyed by pasteurization 

 to the people of Rochester? 



A. I do. 



