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Dr. C. I am glad to take the expression in the mildest form. 

 And in what I have to answer, I must beg indulgence with respect 

 to dates. I will thank any brother to supply the date for any fact 

 that I may mention. 



This being a question, then, of North and South, we must first 

 settle what the terms mean. What is North and what is South in 

 this controversy? I now understand my brother to have said that 

 the course of concession has been from the North to the South ; and 

 I think he also said that these concessions have been made while 

 the power in the Church was passing from the slave-holding to the 

 non-slave-holding States. He carried his dates back to the beginning, 

 and gave us North and South as far back as 1784. But what region 

 was North, and what South, at that time? Our brother says the 

 majority was South ; and where was the South in which that ma- 

 jority dwelt? AVas it in the States of Louisiana, Mississippi, Ar- 

 kansas, Alabama, Georgia or South Carolina? Where was the 

 South of which the brother speaks, at the date he gives? A few 

 years later, we find two or three missionaries sent into South Caro- 

 lina and Georgia, but the very name of Methodism had not reached 

 there in 1784. Our first missionary was sent into Mississippi from 

 South Carolina in 1802, and into Alabama in 1808. But we had 

 Maryland and Virginia for the South. Maryland and Virginia! 

 What, the very center of the system South? And if Maryland and 

 Virginia were the South, where was the North? AVas New York 

 the North? What, a slave State North? As for New England, the 

 bright morning of her birth had not yet dawned. There were no 

 Methodists there. Is it not plain then that our brother found the 

 power of the majority of the Church to have been in the South be- 

 fore there was any South? and the North to have conceded to the 

 South before there was either North or South ? W r hat concessions 

 had one slave-holding State to make to another slave-holding State? 

 Did ever Virginia ask concessions of Carolina, or Carolina of Vir- 

 ginia? It is contrary to the nature of the case that they should. 

 And until New York became a free State, what concessions had she 

 to make to Maryland or Virginia? No, sir, this question of North 

 and South belonged not to those days; and the " legislation" (as my 

 brother calls it) of those times, and times still later (whether wise 

 or unwise), is to be accounted for on very different grounds from 

 what he has supposed. In those times, slavery existed by general 

 consent, and even the atrocious slave-trade Mas carried on both by 

 men of old England and New England, There was no jealousy in 



