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THE AMERICAN BEE JOURNAL. 



J. Van Dcusen, Sprout Brook, N. Y, 

 Geo. K. Wright, Cambria, N, Y. 

 W. E. Moulton, Alexander, N. Y. 

 Miles Morton, (irotou, N. Y. 

 Jesse Mekeel, Poplar Kidge, N. Y. 

 Arthur Todd, Germantown, Pa. 

 Geo. M. Lawrence, Warsaw, N. Y. 

 Theo. (). Peet, Brooklyn, N, Y. 

 J. A, Andrews, Philadelphia, Pa. 

 E. W. Thompson, Hinsdale, N. Y. 

 Chas. S. Hurlbut, West Beth.any, N. Y. 

 W. L. Cog-g-shall, West Groton, N. Y. 



E. W. Landon, Brockton, N. Y. 

 W. G. Fish. Ithaca, N. Y. 



Chas. Faville, South Wales, N. Y. 

 O. G. Smith, Seneca Falls, N. Y, 

 O. H. Sage, Churchville, N. Y. 

 Wm. Brav, Gainesville, X. Y. 

 Ed. Hutchinson. East Avon, N. Y. 

 Elias Mott, Norwich, (int. 



F. C. Burmastcr, Irving, N. Y. 

 Dr. J. P. H. Brown, Augusta, Ga. 

 L. S. Newman. Peoria, X. Y. 



S. M. Puhl, South Toledo, Ohio. 

 N. N. Betsinger, Marcellus, N. Y. 

 Ira Barber, Be Kalli Junction, N. Y. 

 S. C. Sleeper, Holland, N. Y. 

 J. Yandervort, Laceyville, Pa. 

 C. C. Van Deusen, Sproutbrook, N. Y. 

 • J. L. Schotield, Chenango Bridge, N. Y. 

 Geo. Wickwire. Weston's Mills, N. Y. 

 ■Wm. Ellis. St. David's, Ont. 

 W. L. Foster, Warner's, N. Y. 

 S. T. Pettlt, Belmont. Ont. 

 Miss Louisa Pettit, Belmont, Ont. 

 L. H. Baumistcr, Kochester, N. Y. 

 J. B. Hall, Woodstock, Ont. 

 Mrs. Thos. Whiteneck, Tuscarora, N. Y. 

 Thos. Whiteneck. Tuscarora, N. Y. 

 J. D. Weaver, Penfield, X. Y. 

 Wm. F. Clarke, Speedside, Ont. 



F. C. Benedict. Perry Center, N. Y. 

 Mrs. F. C. Benedict, Perry Center, N. Y. 

 W. E. Clark, Oriskany, N. Y. 



C: R. Isham, Peoria, X. Y. 



G. W. Stanley, Wy(]ming. N. Y. 

 J. E. Stanley, Wyoming, N. Y. 

 S. M. Locke, Salem. Mass. 



On recommeutlati(iu of the Pro- 

 gramme Committee, it was agreed to 

 hear the communication on Market- 

 ing Honey, etc., forwarded by Mr. T. 

 G. Newman, Editor of the Am:eiucan 

 Bee Jodexal. It was then read by 

 the Secretary as follows : 



MAKKETIXG HONEY, ETC. 



Mr. President, and Members of the 

 North American Bee-Keepers'' Society : 

 I am requested to send you a short 

 article on the above subject, but I 

 shall not attempt to go over the well- 

 defined and oft-repeated rudimentary 

 rules for the management and prepar- 

 ing honey for the markets of the world. 

 These items have been fully discussed 

 at previous meetings, and I have 

 nothing further to add to the views 

 already expressed. But there is one 

 thing that it will be well to discuss, 

 and not to leave it there, but to ap- 

 point a committee whose duty it shall 

 be to address the railroad companies 

 of America and demand, in the name 

 of this Society, redress in the matter 

 of the classification of bees and honey. 

 Hives of bees are classed at double 

 first-class rates, which is very unjust — 

 making the charges equal to those 

 for seiiding by express. Then, by the 

 mistaken use of the word "hive " for 

 colony— empty hives are, by many 

 railroads, classed the same as those 

 containing bees, greatly to the detri- 

 ment of those who buy hives from 

 manufacturers. They should go as 

 " empty boxes,"' at about one-eighth 

 of the cost now demanded for freight 

 by some railroads. 



In the matter of shipping honey to 

 market — the classification is so high 

 that it amounts to almost a robbery — 



and to seek relief, some bee-keepers 

 ship extracted honey as " syrup,'' at 

 less than half the rates demanded for 

 honey. Tariffs ought to be revised, 

 and liquid honey should be rated the 

 same as syrup. 



Those bee-keepers who have a de- 

 sire to be exactly right, and feel deli- 

 cate about the matter of shipping 

 honey as syrup, are, therefore, com- 

 pelled to pay double the amount 

 which their less scrupulous neighbors 

 have to pay for freight to the large 

 marts of tile world. 



Some grades of syrup sell as high 

 as honey, and there is no reason why 

 both should not be graded alike, 

 when one is as easily and cheaply 

 handled as the other. 



Regretting my inability to be pres- 

 ent, allow me t(j suggest that you ap- 

 point a committee to confer with the 

 different railroad companies, and in- 

 struct them to endeavor to get these 

 things adjusted on an equitable and 

 reasonable basis. 



Hoping that your Convention will 

 be entirely harmonious and success- 

 ful, I remain fraternally yours, 



Tnos. G. Newman. 



Mr. Pettit, in commenting upon 

 the communication, urged the impor- 

 tance of taking more trouble to get 

 grocers and others to keep honey for 

 sale, saying tliat much more honey 

 would be sold annually if people could 

 buy it from the grocers. 



Mr. Van Deusen said that the rea- 

 son why some grocers refuse to handle 

 honey is because of the leakage. 



Mr. Pettit stated that in Ontario, 

 honey is put into boxes and glassed 

 on one side, and tissue paper is put on 

 the bottom so as to prevent leaking. 



Mr. Dodge related his experience in 

 trying to market both extracted and 

 granulated honey. He believed that 

 the difficulty in disposing of extracted 

 honey is owing to the fact that they 

 do not ask a high enough price for the 

 extracted in comparison witli tlie 

 honey in the comb. The very little 

 higher price charged for extracted 

 honey, over honey in comb, suggests 

 adulteration. 



AV. E. Clark explained that the local 

 market in Oneida county could have 

 been kept at 20 cents per pound, had 

 not a man, who happened to have a 

 good crop, rustled into the market and 

 was in such a hurry to sell, that he 

 broke the market. He advocated 

 holding on to honey. He advised that 

 holders should not all endeavor to sell 

 under each other, causing a glut and 

 lower prices. 



Mr. Betsinger advocated making 

 eiiorts to seciii-e reduced freight rates, 

 and urged that the local market be 

 watched and not overloaded under 

 any circumstances. It is a fact, he 

 said, that extracted honey must be 

 sold for less than comb honey, because 

 it can be prepared at about half the 

 cost of comb honey. The latter will 

 always be a luxury, and never can a 

 great demand be created for a luxury. 

 He would encourage the use of ex- 

 tracted honey because of the large 

 consumption 'of honey, especially in 

 the place of other materials ; butter, 

 for instance. 



]Mr. Bacon believed that the trouble 

 in marketing honey is, that people are 

 not properly educated, else they would 

 understand the fact that comb honey 

 costs more than extracted honey, and 

 would not believe that any" hookery'-' 

 is going on when they buy comb honey 

 at a higher price " than extracted 

 honey. Mr. Dodge said that he agreed 

 with Mr. Clark that local markets 

 could be built up to a certain extent, 

 but where a dealer has S,000 or 10,000 

 pounds, he must find a market beyond 

 the producers, and he wanted to know 

 how he could get a market for .his 

 extracted honey. 



Theo. O. Peet said that extracted 

 honey is not as good as comb honey, 

 unless it be extracted after the cells 

 are capped, and then it cannot be ex- 

 tracted at much less expense than 

 comb honey. 



Mr. Hall said that there was a 

 deluge of honey during the latter part 

 of .June, at -which time honey was 

 sold at 10 cents a pound, and finally at 

 9 cents by J. AV. Hall & Co. These 

 men who go wild with their honey, 

 should be treated with contempt, 

 because they cannot be controlled nor 

 educated. 



Mr. AVill Ellis explained that the 

 great cause in the fall in prices is, 

 that the producers, instead of the 

 consumers, manage to cut prices by 

 competition. 



Mr. "S'andervort said that he has; 

 sustained his severest losses by trying 

 to get more for his honey than it 

 would bring. He has sold his honey 

 for what it would bring, spent his 

 money, gone to work to get another 

 crop, "and kept out of the poor-house. 



Mr. Bacon said that the market for 

 honey is injured by some slouchy 

 men who send honey into the mar- 

 ket in dirty boxes, causing dealers to 

 beat down producers who have nicely 

 prepared honey, to the same prices at 

 which they can furnish the article in 

 the poor and dirty boxes. 



Mr. Pierce stated that he had met 

 with just such experience in selling 

 comb' honey. He had found that nice 

 honey put in clean boxes would find a 

 good market as soon as the producer's, 

 reputation is established. 



A question having been handed in 

 by ilr. U. E. Dodge, of Fredonia, N- 

 Y., bearing on the same subject, it 

 was agreed to consider it in connec- 

 tion with Mr. Newman's communica- 

 tion. The question was, "How and 

 when shall we market our extracted 

 honey V" It was moved by Mr. Peet, 

 and seconded by ^Ir. Hall, 



Resolved, That this convention rec- 

 ommend to bee-keepers, the desirable- 

 ness of taking more care in placing 

 our honey on the market in the most 

 attractive manner, Iwth extracted and 

 comb honey, and attacliiug their 

 names thereto ; and that they discoun- 

 tenance all efforts to beat down the 

 marlcet by slovenly bee-keepers and 

 dealers who adulterate it. 



In reference to the railroad rates of 

 freight on honey, brought before the 

 meeting by Mr. Newman, Mr. L. C. 

 Root said that he believed that the 

 point made by Mr. Newman, regard- 

 ing railroad freights, was well taken. 



