1895. 



THE AMERICAN BEE JOURNAL. 



767 



Question;) 'Box> 



In the multitude of counsellors there is 

 safety.— Prov. 11-14. 



Shallow vs. Deep Frames for 

 Wintcriiiir Bees. 



Query 997.— 1. Irrespective of the depth 

 or shallowness of the frames, does the amount 

 of comb which the cluster of a colony covers 

 at the beginning of winter, if about four- 

 fifths filled with honey, sufRce for its needs, 

 ■without the cluster moving lengthwise until 

 the season enables It to do so readily ? 



2. Is there any essential contradiction be- 

 tween the maxim. " Deep frames are better 

 for wintering." and the fact that colonies 

 have wintered well in very shallow hives, 

 such as the Bingham ? 



My idea is, that very shallow frames suc- 

 ceed when they are flUed with honey, or 

 nearly so, and deep frames succeed because 

 they have enough honey in their tops, and 

 that in neither case the cluster moves length- 

 wise In severe weather.— Colorado. 



Eugene Secor — I guess so. 



G. M. Doolittle — I guess you are about 

 right in your idea. 



Mrs. L. Harrison — 1. I should think 

 so. 2. The season may make a dififer- 

 ence. 



W. G. Larrabee — 1. I never noticed 

 particularly, but I should thiok it might. 

 2. I don't know. 



W. R. Graham — 1. It is all-sulBcient 

 in this locality. 2. I would prefer deep 

 frames for wintering. 



Dr. J. P. H. Brown — If I understand 

 the questions, the propounder of them 

 has answered them himself. 



Prof. A. J. Cook — My experience tallies 

 with " Colorado's " conclusions. I never 

 wintered bees better than In the Heddon 

 hive. 



C. H. Dibbern— 1. I think so. 2. No, 

 the severity of the weather, strength of 

 colony, and the quality of the food have 

 more to do with successful wintering 

 than the shape of the hive. 



?. H. Elwood — In long frames the 

 cluster does move lengthwise in cold 

 weather. In deep frames the cluster 

 moves upward. It is better (safer) to 

 move upward than lengthwise. 



B. Taylor — 1. I can make no intelli- 

 gent reply to this impractical question. 

 2. In my cellar, shallow frames winter 

 bees as well as deep ones. I see no rea- 

 son why the cluster could not move 

 lengthwise in either case. 



Rev. M. Mahin — 1. Yes, and no. It 

 depends on the latitude, and the charac- 

 ter of the weather. In some cases the 

 honey in reach, if there were none above 

 the cluster, would be all consumed, and 

 the bees would starve. 2. I do not see 

 any. 



Chas. Dadaut & Son — If the place oc- 

 cupied by the cluster, in a shallow hive, 

 was filled four-fifths with honey, there 

 would be no room for the bees either to 

 breed or to cluster, as they do not like to 

 cluster on the honey, probabjy owing to 

 the fact that it is much colder than the 

 empty comb. The back part of the hive 

 would then be filled all the way down, 

 and we would consider that the colony 

 was running some risk, more so than a 

 colony that had less honey under the 

 cluster. In addition to this, we will say 



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