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Miller: 





Baum: 

 Miller: 



went to Folsom and San Quentin and shot, and the fact 

 is that they would nudge one another and ask, "Who 

 is this fellow?" 



"He's the sheriff of Contra Costa County." 



. 



And of course they'd say to one another, "Keep 





out of that county." 



So we solved much of the crime problem by scaring 

 them away. 



How come you were such a good shot? 

 Veil, as a boy in Livermore I did shooting. It was 

 one of my hobbies as a kid. 



But the point I wanted to make was this, and this 

 is the first time this has been divulged: I never 

 carried a gun for the eight years that I was sheriff, 

 on routine duty. I didn't have to carry a gun. I 

 had the heck scared out of them, and they behaved, and 

 we lost less than $1,000 a month here in this county, 

 a month ! while now we lose more than that every day 

 here. I did have a gun, several of them, in the car, 

 a rifle and a shotgun and a revolver; I did strap a 

 gun on me when I went after several important crim- 

 inals — I can give you the names of them — but I 



