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Miller: That fellow just simply got frightened out of 



his skin. He gave himself up. This is an indication 

 of how people respect the law when the law knows what 

 to do about it. And I guess I'm one of what you'd 

 call the old-time sheriffs, because we lived by our 

 ability to shoot a gun and to ride a horse, not 

 because of our political ability at all. 



Baum: Tou've given in a considerable detail, I understand, 

 a report of how you modernized the sheriff *s office 

 to the Contra Costa College. Is that available for 

 scholars to look into? 



Mi Her J Yes. I made two tapes, one last Saturday and one 



last Sunday, of an hour apiece, for the junior college, 

 and this is the exact thing that I just said now. I 

 gave in detail how I modernized the sheriff's office. 

 I guess this should be available through the junior 

 college. 



Baum: Do you know if they're going to make a transcript of 

 that? 



Miller: No, I don't know that. I know they played it back 

 and it sounded very, very wonderful. 



Baum: If you ever get duplicate copies we'd be happy to 



